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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#841 Postby caneseddy » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:29 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote::uarrow:

Essentially the exact same landfall point as yesterday's 12z run, but stronger.

Looks like landfall is south of the 00z run. WNW approach over the 48 hours prior to landfall, whereas 00z was very NW.


Yep..which means that the models are ever so slowly picking up on a stronger ridge. The models are starting to show more of a bend west upon landfall rather than the straight NW angle from yesterday. South Florida definitely not out of the woods yet.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#842 Postby USTropics » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:29 pm

12z GFS/ECMWF/CMC at 120 hours:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#843 Postby chris_fit » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:30 pm

EURO much faster on this run...

here is trend of last 4 0/12z runs
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#845 Postby AdamFirst » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:33 pm

I'd say the curve back to the west is definitive throughout all of the model suites. Let's just see how far north it gets first
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#846 Postby Frank P » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:34 pm

Frank P wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Don’t like the trend of models somehow pushing
Dorian into the GOM in some form or manner.

Waiting to see where the Euro ends up, maybe Gulf maybe not

Euro extreme NE GOM... amazing :eek:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#847 Postby psyclone » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:35 pm

That Euro run is pretty similar to 2004 Frances in terms of track through Florida and clipping the NE Gulf
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#848 Postby sma10 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:35 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
sma10 wrote:Feel free to correct me, but I sense the GFS and Euro are starting to trend slightly towards Uk solution. The first couple or so days moving further East (avoiding Hispaniola for the most part), then on days 3-5 a more sharper turn to more W/WNW as opposed to NW. Not sure if it will transpire exactly as trending, but a bad trend, imo



It's fair to say the UKMET has also been gradually shifting North, and it along with the other globals are slowly forming a consensus.... that still has a lot of uncertainty. It does bear repeating though, that the UKMET was the first model, from the very onset, to consistently show Dorian missing Hispaniola to the East and North. It remains the main model I'm looking at this week. UKMET has been the rightmost model run to run. And Dorian is consistently moving right of the forecast track. 2+2=4


Fair enough. But tbh, when I look at 4-5 days forecasts I don't concentrate all that much on landing points. While it's true that the Uk has moved from Key West to around Jupiter - the main idea has been the same: a very strong E-W oriented ridge that straightens out its vector to around 270. If it verifies it's impossible to tell at this point who gets it. Is it 25N, 26N, 27N? No way to know yet, but my sense is IF THIS VERIFIES, it's the lower third of the peninsula.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#849 Postby chris_fit » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:35 pm

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#850 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:37 pm

So this isn't a good so far, with that bend back into the GoM. Is that ridging going to be more stout than it was on previous runs?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#851 Postby p1nheadlarry » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:37 pm

chris_fit wrote:Euro Day 5

https://i.imgur.com/xV0SsAd.png


Any reason you chose the OW parameter to plot?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#853 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:38 pm

12z Euro would be very bad for the Northern Gulf, which has seen a lot of rain the last few weeks. Not to mention impacting areas effected by Michael last year.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#854 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:39 pm

Really not interested in a visit from you Dorian, got a lot to do next week here in Pensacola.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#855 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:39 pm

like I said earlier we have no trend right now.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#856 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:41 pm

TheProfessor wrote:12z Euro would be very bad for the Northern Gulf, which has seen a lot of rain the last few weeks. Not to mention impacting areas effected by Michael last year.


So true, Panama City can't take anything like this right now. There are still blue tarps around the area and lots of construction going on trying to rebuild.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#857 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:42 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:like I said earlier we have no trend right now.


There's definitely been a trend in the short term for Dorian to move east of Hispaniola instead of directly over it.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#858 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:42 pm

12z EURO landfall Miss/Ala state line as TS Dorian 1000mb, next Wednesday morning.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#859 Postby toad strangler » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:44 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:12z EURO landfall Miss/Ala state line as TS Dorian 1000mb, next Wednesday morning.



Looks more like AL/FL line to me
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#860 Postby toad strangler » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:45 pm

Euro has no ideas about slowing down and flooding. zoom zoom zoom!
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