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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2661 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:49 pm

Regardless still cold enough for northern areas down into central sections but need to watch trends the next few runs
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2662 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:49 pm

Precip shield is gradually tightening.

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2663 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:51 pm

Ntxw wrote:Precip shield is gradually tightening.

https://i.imgur.com/WeRA9IY.gif


Continues to supress though which again you would expect with that much cold pushing especially further NE you get
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2664 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:52 pm

txtwister78 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Precip shield is gradually tightening.

https://i.imgur.com/WeRA9IY.gif


Continues to supress though which again you would expect with that much cold pushing especially further NE you get


Yeah it looked too broad, even the Euro, in real world it seldom plays that way. Probably a few hundred miles along 700-850 boundary where warm air meets cold is what will probably happen.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2665 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:55 pm

Ntxw wrote:18z GEFS is even wetter than 12z, and snow means is further south. I'd be thinking about suppression up in Oklahoma.


Pretty much in line with the 12z EPS.

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2666 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:57 pm

Ntxw wrote:18z GEFS is even wetter than 12z, and snow means is further south. I'd be thinking about suppression up in Oklahoma.

I hope we don't get suppressed, I would be super mad if we get suppression bust for the snow

In other news, KOCO has shown an air temperature of -14°F Monday morning with that snowpack :eek:
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2667 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:59 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2668 Postby TomballEd » Mon Jan 19, 2026 5:59 pm

Its warmer. One off hour run doesn't make a trend but 12Z runs had less precip below freezing IMBY, this now has none. DFW still gets over half an inch of freezing/frozen precip. so this is still a big ticket event even if low level temps verify perfectly. Extrapolating a row of counties S for HOU/DWH puts some freezing rain into northern Harris County a few hours after moderate rain which would wash away the CaCl2 salt TXDOT would put down and any amount of ice on say the TX 99 flyovers would cause accidents.

Lesson from the 2010 Boxing Day Blizzard in NYC/NE. Sabbath observant Jewish posters logged off a weather forum Friday afternoon saddened because 12Z (and 18Z regional) models had cancelled the blizzard. Those people logged back on Saturday evening to Blizzard Warnings. Warnings which verified. Model swings are probably not as big now 15 years later but they still happen.

I'm not dropping the guard in Houston, especially if I want to beat the crowds watching rip and read forecasts on KPRC 2 or KTRK 13 (at least some of the KHOU mets have met/atmospheric science BS degrees) in case I do need to stock up at HEB or Aldi. Because the trend 12Z/18Z has 4 days left to turn the other way. Row of counties S with the freeze line moves Austin from trace amounts of FZRA back into ice storm territory.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2669 Postby snownado » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:02 pm

Ntxw wrote:18z GEFS is even wetter than 12z, and snow means is further south. I'd be thinking about suppression up in Oklahoma.


While unlikely, beside suppresison, another possible (although low probability) solution would simply be widespread cold but non-freezing rain with air temps hovering around 30-32 (which would really limit accretion), and perhaps advisory criteria snow at best in OK.

As discussed, the OP 18z GFS took a step in this direction.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2670 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:08 pm

snownado wrote:
Ntxw wrote:18z GEFS is even wetter than 12z, and snow means is further south. I'd be thinking about suppression up in Oklahoma.


While unlikely, beside suppresison, another possible (although low probability) solution would simply be widespread cold but non-freezing rain with air temps hovering around 30-32 (which would really limit accretion), and perhaps advisory criteria snow at best in OK.

As discussed, the OP 18z GFS took a step in this direction.


Strength of HP, unless it is significantly reduced quickly, usually doesn't favor that outcome. Which would mean the TPV exits off the Lakes before arrival of the upper jet. This kind of happened last year when DFW missed the biggest snows just to the north. This 500mb flow, as it is modeled now, much more anomalous at the cold source.

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2671 Postby rwfromkansas » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:08 pm

Do the new GEFS runs close off the low like the OP?

Many heavy hitters there still.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2672 Postby dhweather » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:13 pm

FWD calling for Saturday night / Sunday morning lows of 11 degrees in Heath. :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2673 Postby snownado » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:14 pm

Ntxw wrote:
snownado wrote:
Ntxw wrote:18z GEFS is even wetter than 12z, and snow means is further south. I'd be thinking about suppression up in Oklahoma.


While unlikely, beside suppresison, another possible (although low probability) solution would simply be widespread cold but non-freezing rain with air temps hovering around 30-32 (which would really limit accretion), and perhaps advisory criteria snow at best in OK.

As discussed, the OP 18z GFS took a step in this direction.


Strength of HP, unless it is significantly reduced quickly, usually doesn't favor that outcome. Which would mean the TPV exits off the Lakes before arrival of the upper jet. This kind of happened last year when DFW missed the biggest snows just to the north. This 500mb flow, as it is modeled now, much more anomalous at the cold source.

https://i.imgur.com/AM7o0jb.gif

https://i.imgur.com/WHEFUP8.gif


As I said, it is low probability, but still not out of the realm of possible solutions given we're still several days out (and honestly, it's a solution I'd prefer).

EDIT: Should also be noted, models do have a tendency to overdue the strength of HPs in the med/long range (extreme as it still was, even Feb 2021 was expected to have a stronger HP than what occurred).
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2674 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:17 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:Do the new GEFS runs close off the low like the OP?

Many heavy hitters there still.


The GEFS means is trending the other way, towards the Euro bunch.

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2675 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:26 pm

A little off topic and of course in fantasy land territory but root for that Euro AI 18z run at the end of the month. Lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2676 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:30 pm

18z AIs

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2677 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:35 pm

Torching up in Alaska today, oh how they needed it. They'll torch again in a few weeks when the Aleutian low pumps warm air up there.

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2678 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:37 pm

18z Euro still bringing it. 1052 Arctic high over the Midwest.

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2679 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:39 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#2680 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Jan 19, 2026 6:40 pm

looks like a south shift on the euro
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