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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2701 Postby DFW Stormwatcher » Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:45 am

wxman57 wrote:Models do seem to be backing off on the extreme cold next weekend. Still a lot of differences in the models. Won't be more confident until maybe next Tue-Wed. By the way, I have a beef with that groundhog. It was clearly overcast and snowing when he came out of his hole on Tuesday. How did he see his shadow? The whole thing is rigged!

If the cold air does get in place by next Fri/Sat, then the pattern in the Euro would be a quite favorable one for snow across TX.


It’s good to see you posting again. Hope you’re feeling better. Missed you keeping us grounded on the two near miss snow storms last month in dfw.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2702 Postby Haris » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:20 am

GFS keeps warming Tuesday's front a wee bit every run.. Not that I respect these models when it comes to shallow fronts but they keep doing this. The real cold always stays far out and the actual reality seems much milder. Makes sense given climatology I guess. Bright side, marginal cold = better winter wx chances with more moisture

Edit: GFS went way warmer lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2703 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:25 am

Haris wrote:GFS keeps warming Tuesday's front a wee bit every run.. Not that I respect these models when it comes to shallow fronts but they keep doing this. The real cold always stays far out and the actual reality seems much milder. Makes sense given climatology I guess. Bright side, marginal cold = better winter wx chances with more moisture

Getting closer to that mid range where models tend to back off a bit. No way of knowing whether it’s accurate or not, but I’m enjoying the ride. Winter storm is still there in some form on the 12z gfs
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2704 Postby utweather » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:26 am

Haris wrote:GFS keeps warming Tuesday's front a wee bit every run.. Not that I respect these models when it comes to shallow fronts but they keep doing this. The real cold always stays far out and the actual reality seems much milder. Makes sense given climatology I guess. Bright side, marginal cold = better winter wx chances with more moisture

Edit: GFS went way warmer lol


We may set a record high temp today.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2705 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:28 am

Haris wrote:GFS keeps warming Tuesday's front a wee bit every run.. Not that I respect these models when it comes to shallow fronts but they keep doing this. The real cold always stays far out and the actual reality seems much milder. Makes sense given climatology I guess. Bright side, marginal cold = better winter wx chances with more moisture

Edit: GFS went way warmer lol


But, at Hour 210 on GFS 12z, It's MUCH colder compared to 6z.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2706 Postby Haris » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:30 am

Iceresistance wrote:
Haris wrote:GFS keeps warming Tuesday's front a wee bit every run.. Not that I respect these models when it comes to shallow fronts but they keep doing this. The real cold always stays far out and the actual reality seems much milder. Makes sense given climatology I guess. Bright side, marginal cold = better winter wx chances with more moisture

Edit: GFS went way warmer lol


But, at Hour 210 on GFS 12z, It's MUCH colder compared to 6z.



This has been the case all the time LOL. Anything beyond hour 180 is useless in this pattern
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2707 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:34 am

Haris wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Haris wrote:GFS keeps warming Tuesday's front a wee bit every run.. Not that I respect these models when it comes to shallow fronts but they keep doing this. The real cold always stays far out and the actual reality seems much milder. Makes sense given climatology I guess. Bright side, marginal cold = better winter wx chances with more moisture

Edit: GFS went way warmer lol


But, at Hour 210 on GFS 12z, It's MUCH colder compared to 6z.



This has been the case all the time LOL. Anything beyond hour 180 is useless in this pattern


I've just noticed that the air is more colder when it's more compact even though it's farther North.
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It's more broader on 6z, but colder to the South
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2708 Postby orangeblood » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:35 am

Just a suggestion...until we get within 120 hrs or 5 days out, put much more weight into the Ensembles and their trends. Looking at every Operational run is a wild roller coaster ride until you get within the 4-5 day mark!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2709 Postby txtwister78 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:45 am

The GEFS is incoming now and it continues to look colder. I would rely/put more weight behind those than individual model runs either way. Operational models will "catch up" should those ENS trends continue. One other thing to note in the short term is the GEFS also shows high temps for Sunday coming down a bit as well than what was indicated just a few days prior.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2710 Postby bubba hotep » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:46 am

GFS-P is wild with a major ice storm for NE Texas into Northern Louisiana and some hefty snow totals across portions of N. TX & OK.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2711 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:51 am

12z GFS is calling for a winter storm next week

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24-Hour Snowfall (Higher Amounts within snowbands) :cold:
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NASTY cold for several days, but it's mostly farther north than 6z :froze:
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Also, a 1050 MB High centered in Missouri, don't see that every day in Winter.

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2712 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:58 am

bubba hotep wrote:GFS-P is wild with a major ice storm for NE Texas into Northern Louisiana and some hefty snow totals across portions of N. TX & OK.

Yikes! :eek:

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2713 Postby wxman57 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:01 pm

12Z GFS says what cold? Moved the 500mb low from Missouri to James Bay late next week. Very progressive pattern. Cold air shifts east. Only a light freeze in Houston next weekend.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2714 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:01 pm

So the parallel GFS says v16 is that an old version or a new model in testing?
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2715 Postby wxman57 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:04 pm

12Z Canadian is much warmer for TX, too.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2716 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:07 pm

Animation of the 5 storms in the Southern Plains for the 12z GFS-Para

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2717 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:08 pm

wxman57 wrote:12Z GFS says what cold? Moved the 500mb low from Missouri to James Bay late next week. Very progressive pattern. Cold air shifts east. Only a light freeze in Houston next weekend.


Stop messing with the models please. 8-)
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2718 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:09 pm

Most likely a fluke. Otherwise they are expecting the so called pacific atmospheric river to set up once again which is the only thing that could push that high quick enough to force it that far east over Kentucky.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2719 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:10 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:So the parallel GFS says v16 is that an old version or a new model in testing?


Parallel is the new updated version slated to take over the current GFS. Plan was for this month however I expect more testing is needed and they may wait another month.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#2720 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:12 pm

wxman57 wrote:12Z Canadian is much warmer for TX, too.


Maybe! Both guidance still keeps DFW at best in the middle 30s (though likely hovering freezing) after Monday night and through to the end of the week. If you're taking them verbatim at the surface.
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