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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2721 Postby Brent » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:26 pm

Lagreeneyes03 wrote:So is it possible the cold could come back for the 22/23 below freezing? Or is that pretty much out of the question?


It certainly is possible need to watch trends

The nam especially keep an eye on it.

My hunch is probably a cold rain but if the precip hangs around long enough could be something else at the end
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2722 Postby aggiecutter » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:43 pm

I hate to be redundant, but active subtropical jet plus pressing cold equals winter storm for the southern plains and Texas:

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2723 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:43 pm

18z gfs keep prolonging everything again and pushing it back lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2724 Postby losf1981 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:47 pm

Some Oklahoma mets that I follow on facebook are still calling for a snow storm this weekend for most of Oklahoma into far northern Texas.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2725 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:54 pm

losf1981 wrote:Some Oklahoma mets that I follow on facebook are still calling for a snow storm this weekend for most of Oklahoma into far northern Texas.

I agree with this, it is very likely that the Christmas Eve front will have more moisture available than modeled right now. The 18Z GFS is funky and I am discounting it so I am ignoring the fact that it suddenly eliminated the moisture for that front on this run. Watch for that system to dig into NM on future runs and if it does so northern Texas and OK should get a bit of snow out of it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2726 Postby Brent » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:55 pm

Lol now the gfs snowstorm is new years eve and new years day

I definitely wouldnt sleep on this weekend though yet. If the precip is underdone like today we could get away with more borderline temps
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2727 Postby hriverajr » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:56 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:18z gfs keep prolonging everything again and pushing it back lol
yes it does...:)
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2728 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:58 pm

18z GFS with the most epic winter storm ever as most of Texas and Louisiana are destroyed.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2729 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:59 pm

lol these models are struggling bad with the cold lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2730 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:00 pm

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stormlover2013 wrote:18z gfs keep prolonging everything again and pushing it back lol
yes it does...:)

As aggiecutter says cold plus active STJ equals winter storm in Texas, just have to figure out the timing. Heck, we could get some true snow within 5 days and a mix within 3 days.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2731 Postby ronyan » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:00 pm

Anyone want to join a class action lawsuit against the GFS for stimulating false hope on weather boards? :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2732 Postby orangeblood » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:00 pm

aggiecutter wrote:I hate to be redundant, but active subtropical jet plus pressing cold equals winter storm for the southern plains and Texas:



Agreed, you rarely ever see the Ensembles this adamant about moisture and sub-freezing temps without a southern plains winter storm....just need a little more patience to let this pattern evolve

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2733 Postby gpsnowman » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:23 pm

All time daily record set today for DFW. 2.35 inches of rain has fallen and still raining, heavily at my place in Irving near the airport. A very wet wonderful day.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2734 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:35 pm

GEFS is still quite a bit cooler than the operational.

Makes more sense given what we know about these fronts.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2735 Postby BrokenGlassRepublicn » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:47 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:18z gfs keep prolonging everything again and pushing it back lol

Before too long it'll have this sucker moved out to June.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2736 Postby La Breeze » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:05 pm

bubba hotep wrote:18z GFS with the most epic winter storm ever as most of Texas and Louisiana are destroyed.

When is this "expected" to occur? I know, things change...., just wondering.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2737 Postby OKMet83 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:18 pm

FRZ Rain looks poss if not likely to me along I-44 S/E Of Oklahoma City Metro Fri Evening/Sat AM... How far south is in question both OUN, Ft Worth upping the talk a bit on this as well in the afternoon afd's Snow most likely stays north of the river on Christmas eve morning... Next week truly looks interesting IMO...

Edit: Also I would add Unless we start seeing significant agreement it's time to throw the long-range models out and see what the nam gives us over the next 24-48 hrs
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2738 Postby Brent » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:18 pm

It's now to start 2018 but the op gfs has been struggling and keeps pushing it later

I'd just be real surprised if this pattern doesn't produce something by new years the signals are so consistent. But if it somehow doesn't produce might as well move onto spring lol

Given the recent model trends it may just pop up out of nowhere a day or two in advance literally
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2739 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:27 pm

OKMet83 wrote:FRZ Rain looks poss if not likely to me along I-44 S/E Of Oklahoma City Metro Fri Evening/Sat AM... How far south is in question both OUN, Ft Worth upping the talk a bit on this as well in the afternoon afd's Snow most likely stays north of the river on Christmas eve morning... Next week truly looks interesting IMO...

Edit: Also I would add Unless we start seeing significant agreement it's time to throw the long-range models out and see what the nam gives us over the next 24-48 hrs


Next week is the most impressive pattern I've seen in years for N. Texas. I was never really big on the Christmas system but it still has sneaky potential. The following week has big winter storm potential, IMO.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2740 Postby aggiecutter » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:30 pm

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