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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3101 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:44 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:Anyone know if what is showing up on radar around Lubbock is reaching the ground or accumulating? Looks much more impressive on radar right now out there than models had shown.


A friend on FB in Lubbock said it was snowing there. He didn't say if it was accumulating. It looked like it was accumulating on roofs in places with webcams in the area.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3102 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:49 pm

The real silver lining in all of this is the -SOI continues it's streak. It's anomalous in a La Nina and we've had a fairly wet pattern ever since. That at least should continue, so in general one would think to side with more qpf to curb growing drought.

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5 Dec 2017   1012.14   1005.40   15.67   10.64   9.10
6 Dec 2017   1011.16   1005.40   10.59   10.86   9.21
7 Dec 2017   1011.15   1006.10   6.90   10.98   9.35
8 Dec 2017   1012.17   1006.60   9.60   10.69   9.45
9 Dec 2017   1013.21   1007.35   11.11   10.71   9.44
10 Dec 2017   1012.44   1008.50   1.14   10.63   9.30
11 Dec 2017   1011.42   1009.65   -10.12   10.31   9.11
12 Dec 2017   1010.50   1008.95   -11.26   9.93   8.85
13 Dec 2017   1010.91   1008.20   -5.24   9.53   8.67
14 Dec 2017   1009.89   1007.85   -8.72   8.83   8.54
15 Dec 2017   1008.75   1007.45   -12.56   8.02   8.44
16 Dec 2017   1007.94   1007.90   -19.10   6.86   8.27
17 Dec 2017   1007.96   1008.10   -20.03   5.77   8.07
18 Dec 2017   1009.05   1007.15   -9.45   5.00   8.04
19 Dec 2017   1009.83   1007.30   -6.18   4.37   8.05
20 Dec 2017   1010.91   1007.55   -1.87   3.97   8.05
21 Dec 2017   1010.55   1007.30   -2.44   3.59   7.97
22 Dec 2017   1008.41   1006.55   -9.65   2.81   7.80
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3103 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:10 pm

Ntxw wrote:The real silver lining in all of this is the -SOI continues it's streak. It's anomalous in a La Nina and we've had a fairly wet pattern ever since. That at least should continue, so in general one would think to side with more qpf to curb growing drought.

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5 Dec 2017   1012.14   1005.40   15.67   10.64   9.10
6 Dec 2017   1011.16   1005.40   10.59   10.86   9.21
7 Dec 2017   1011.15   1006.10   6.90   10.98   9.35
8 Dec 2017   1012.17   1006.60   9.60   10.69   9.45
9 Dec 2017   1013.21   1007.35   11.11   10.71   9.44
10 Dec 2017   1012.44   1008.50   1.14   10.63   9.30
11 Dec 2017   1011.42   1009.65   -10.12   10.31   9.11
12 Dec 2017   1010.50   1008.95   -11.26   9.93   8.85
13 Dec 2017   1010.91   1008.20   -5.24   9.53   8.67
14 Dec 2017   1009.89   1007.85   -8.72   8.83   8.54
15 Dec 2017   1008.75   1007.45   -12.56   8.02   8.44
16 Dec 2017   1007.94   1007.90   -19.10   6.86   8.27
17 Dec 2017   1007.96   1008.10   -20.03   5.77   8.07
18 Dec 2017   1009.05   1007.15   -9.45   5.00   8.04
19 Dec 2017   1009.83   1007.30   -6.18   4.37   8.05
20 Dec 2017   1010.91   1007.55   -1.87   3.97   8.05
21 Dec 2017   1010.55   1007.30   -2.44   3.59   7.97
22 Dec 2017   1008.41   1006.55   -9.65   2.81   7.80


What is the SOI again?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3104 Postby Brent » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:18 pm

iorange55 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:HRRR captures it pretty well. A burst of snow later this evening from Wichita Falls, to S-Central Oklahoma and Northeastern Oklahoma. The rich get richer


:roll: I guess we still have all of January and February left! #brightside


Hopefully....
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3105 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:26 pm

weatherdude1108 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:The real silver lining in all of this is the -SOI continues it's streak. It's anomalous in a La Nina and we've had a fairly wet pattern ever since. That at least should continue, so in general one would think to side with more qpf to curb growing drought.

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5 Dec 2017   1012.14   1005.40   15.67   10.64   9.10
6 Dec 2017   1011.16   1005.40   10.59   10.86   9.21
7 Dec 2017   1011.15   1006.10   6.90   10.98   9.35
8 Dec 2017   1012.17   1006.60   9.60   10.69   9.45
9 Dec 2017   1013.21   1007.35   11.11   10.71   9.44
10 Dec 2017   1012.44   1008.50   1.14   10.63   9.30
11 Dec 2017   1011.42   1009.65   -10.12   10.31   9.11
12 Dec 2017   1010.50   1008.95   -11.26   9.93   8.85
13 Dec 2017   1010.91   1008.20   -5.24   9.53   8.67
14 Dec 2017   1009.89   1007.85   -8.72   8.83   8.54
15 Dec 2017   1008.75   1007.45   -12.56   8.02   8.44
16 Dec 2017   1007.94   1007.90   -19.10   6.86   8.27
17 Dec 2017   1007.96   1008.10   -20.03   5.77   8.07
18 Dec 2017   1009.05   1007.15   -9.45   5.00   8.04
19 Dec 2017   1009.83   1007.30   -6.18   4.37   8.05
20 Dec 2017   1010.91   1007.55   -1.87   3.97   8.05
21 Dec 2017   1010.55   1007.30   -2.44   3.59   7.97
22 Dec 2017   1008.41   1006.55   -9.65   2.81   7.80


What is the SOI again?


SOI is the southern oscillation index. It is the reading (formulated) pressure differences between Tahiti and Darwin. It measures well where convection is in the tropical Pacific. -SOI is consistent with El Nino and +SOI is consistent with La NIna. When you have big dips in SOI into negative terrority, it is usually a sign the Pacific could enhance precipitation. As has been the case the past 2 weeks.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3106 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:31 pm

Here is an example to illustrate monthly SOI.

2011 we all agree is a very dry year. La Nina present, and SOI predominantly above 0, often above +10

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2015 was a very wet year and an El Nino, predominantly -SOI with it being below 0, often below -10

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3107 Postby Quixotic » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:44 pm

You know, when all is said and done, the models weren’t all that wrong. Drop the column 6 or 7 degrees and today would have been a monster.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3108 Postby iorange55 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:45 pm

Quixotic wrote:You know, when all is said and done, the models weren’t all that wrong. Drop the column 6 or 7 degrees and today would have been a monster.



Yeah in the longer range, but they lost the storm mid range and had us pretty dry. Then it was picked up by CMC and NAM
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3109 Postby gpsnowman » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:48 pm

Pouring rain in Irving. Man I wish the temps were about eight degrees colder. Grrrrrrrr. :grrr:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3110 Postby Quixotic » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:57 pm

FWIW, this year is acting a lot like 11-12. A Nina that acts like a nino.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3111 Postby orangeblood » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:11 pm

Quixotic wrote:FWIW, this year is acting a lot like 11-12. A Nina that acts like a nino.



Sure hope not...hoping it's more like 95-96 where core of the cold was aimed at the northeast early on and then retrograded back west as the winter progressed
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3112 Postby Quixotic » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:29 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Quixotic wrote:FWIW, this year is acting a lot like 11-12. A Nina that acts like a nino.



Sure hope not...hoping it's more like 95-96 where core of the cold was aimed at the northeast early on and then retrograded back west as the winter progressed


Amen. I hope you’re right. I’ll take 88-89 where we got blasted in February and March. I think March had som -38 departures.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3113 Postby Brent » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:32 pm

Quixotic wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Quixotic wrote:FWIW, this year is acting a lot like 11-12. A Nina that acts like a nino.



Sure hope not...hoping it's more like 95-96 where core of the cold was aimed at the northeast early on and then retrograded back west as the winter progressed


Amen. I hope you’re right. I’ll take 88-89 where we got blasted in February and March. I think March had som -38 departures.


Anything but 11-12 ugh
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3114 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:32 pm

Nice cold t-storm rolling through my area.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3115 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:39 pm

Brent wrote:
Quixotic wrote:
orangeblood wrote:

Sure hope not...hoping it's more like 95-96 where core of the cold was aimed at the northeast early on and then retrograded back west as the winter progressed


Amen. I hope you’re right. I’ll take 88-89 where we got blasted in February and March. I think March had som -38 departures.


Anything but 11-12 ugh


2008-2009 is another option. Hurricane hit (Ike) and early December Houston snow. Also second year Nina
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3116 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:47 pm

Only 2 weeks out, not that long :cheesy:

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3117 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:12 pm

35 degrees in Grapevine and surrounding areas, not sure that this was forecast. Rain still falling.. Just need 3-4 more degrees! Could it happen?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3118 Postby aggiecutter » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:55 pm

8" of rain in Texarkana over the past 10 days from 4 different systems total.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3119 Postby wxman57 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:28 pm

Ntxw wrote:Only 2 weeks out, not that long :cheesy:

http://i67.tinypic.com/rad9q1.png


I'm quite sure that snow storm for the DFW area on the 5th of January will happen. Something is definitely making the GFS act very strangely of late. I don't think I've ever seen it perform so poorly.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#3120 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:39 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Only 2 weeks out, not that long :cheesy:

http://i67.tinypic.com/rad9q1.png


I'm quite sure that snow storm for the DFW area on the 5th of January will happen. Something is definitely making the GFS act very strangely of late. I don't think I've ever seen it perform so poorly.


Wasn't the GFS "Upgraded" not too long ago?
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