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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3301 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:33 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:300+ hours but why not? Mr HeatMiser tear down this wall.

https://i.imgur.com/WBVY3M7.png

https://i.imgur.com/CGHPmIa.gif


Majority of the State 15-25F below normal over a 10 day stretch...maybe the coldest GFS run I've ever witnessed!

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/gfs-deterministic/namer/t2m_f_anom_10day/1643371200/1644753600-4uMjuuL2aXY.png


This winter for the good and the bad, whichever pattern sets in tends to stick around for about 30-45 day period. That was the case in December and January. Slow moving MJO and the tropics have locked in patterns for long periods.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3302 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:46 pm

Guys, I feel I will be making an experience across Texas in the next 14 days.

Let’s roll!
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3303 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:57 pm

There are quite a few GEFS members with a big snowfall hit in North Texas (parts of east, central, SW TX) too.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3304 Postby WinterMax » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:01 pm

Ntxw wrote:UKMET with limited data but 5h looks slower than GFS so it's likely a big hit with cold incoming.


How do we stand on this winter threat in central to south central Louisiana NTXW? Any thoughts?
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3305 Postby Haris » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:02 pm

Ntxw wrote:There are quite a few GEFS members with a big snowfall hit in North Texas (parts of east, central, SW TX) too.


CMC ensembles, while not as good, was a good step in the right direction on the 500mb too

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3306 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:03 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Guys, I feel I will be making an experience across Texas in the next 14 days.

Let’s roll!


I'm not sure what that means. An "appearance"?
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3307 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:05 pm

For fun, I plotted the days 10-16 temps/precip from the 12Z GFS for Houston & Dallas. I don't think we would like a 36-hr freeze with ice again this February. Let's hope GFS backs off. I'll look at days 1-10 next.

http://wxman57.com/images/IAHExtendedJan28.JPG
http://wxman57.com/images/DFWExtendedJan28.JPG

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3308 Postby harp » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:06 pm

WinterMax wrote:
Ntxw wrote:UKMET with limited data but 5h looks slower than GFS so it's likely a big hit with cold incoming.


How do we stand on this winter threat in central to south central Louisiana NTXW? Any thoughts?

Yes, I’d like to know that as well. You have several members over here in south Louisiana. Any response would be appreciated!
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3309 Postby Hurricane_Apu » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:12 pm

harp wrote:
WinterMax wrote:
Ntxw wrote:UKMET with limited data but 5h looks slower than GFS so it's likely a big hit with cold incoming.


How do we stand on this winter threat in central to south central Louisiana NTXW? Any thoughts?

Yes, I’d like to know that as well. You have several members over here in south Louisiana. Any response would be appreciated!


Model output so far, verbatim, suggests an outcome similar to last February... significant cold but mitigated by a strong SE ridge and not as severe as what happens in Texas.

Last year that was the difference between a once in 15-20 years event (LA) and a once in 50+ years event (TX). This year's event likely won't be as severe overall, but the west to east gradient will be similar.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3310 Postby orangeblood » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:13 pm

Haris wrote:
Ntxw wrote:There are quite a few GEFS members with a big snowfall hit in North Texas (parts of east, central, SW TX) too.


CMC ensembles, while not as good, was a good step in the right direction on the 500mb too

[url]https://i.ibb.co/JzrdHMw/cmc-ensemble-all-avg-conus-z500-dprog-3857200.png [/url]


Wetter/Colder, much more so than its Operational
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3311 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:13 pm

Here are days 1-10 for Houston & D-FW. I think February 2 looks barely acceptable for February. Beyond then, not so much.

http://wxman57.com/images/IAHGFSJan28.JPG
http://wxman57.com/images/DFWGFSJan28.JPG

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3312 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:15 pm

Yeeeeaaahhhh next week looks cold lol.

I'll be in Crested butte, where the low is expected to get to -20. Lovely.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3313 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:18 pm

Hurricane_Apu wrote:
harp wrote:
WinterMax wrote:
How do we stand on this winter threat in central to south central Louisiana NTXW? Any thoughts?

Yes, I’d like to know that as well. You have several members over here in south Louisiana. Any response would be appreciated!


Model output so far, verbatim, suggests an outcome similar to last February... significant cold but mitigated by a strong SE ridge and not as severe as what happens in Texas.

Last year that was the difference between a once in 15-20 years event (LA) and a once in 50+ years event (TX). This year's event likely won't be as severe overall, but the west to east gradient will be similar.


Some good thoughts. The PNA is changing from positive to slightly negative at the front of February so it will favor a Lakes cutter and west of the MS River cold at first. Really the Great Plains benefit the most from such a pattern. Northern LA may sit decent, the surface cold will try to press though. So definitely like last year, but I'd even compare it more to Superbowl week 2011.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3314 Postby Haris » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:20 pm

Great improvements to the euro already!!!

Ridge gone over CA. Diving more SW and slower.

Edit; nevermind :roll:
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3315 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:35 pm

wxman57 wrote:
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:Guys, I feel I will be making an experience across Texas in the next 14 days.

Let’s roll!


I'm not sure what that means. An "appearance"?



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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3316 Postby HockeyTx82 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:35 pm

wxman57 wrote:Here are days 1-10 for Houston & D-FW. I think February 2 looks barely acceptable for February. Beyond then, not so much.

http://wxman57.com/images/IAHGFSJan28.JPG
http://wxman57.com/images/DFWGFSJan28.JPG

http://wxman57.com/images/IAHGFSJan28.JPG

http://wxman57.com/images/DFWGFSJan28.JPG


Are gassing up the jet or are still in wait and see mode?
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3317 Postby txtwister78 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:36 pm

Not quite there yet on the Euro....trough still not deep enough. No development of an ULL in the southern branch.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3318 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:36 pm

Haris wrote:Great improvements to the euro already!!!

Ridge gone over CA. Diving more SW and slower.

Edit; nevermind :roll:


Euro pulls the northern stream away, southern stream shears out, and incoming vorticity. Just put it all together already.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3319 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:37 pm

txtwister78 wrote:Not quite there yet on the Euro....trough still not deep enough. No development of an ULL in the southern branch.

True but still a step in the right direction
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3320 Postby txtwister78 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:38 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
txtwister78 wrote:Not quite there yet on the Euro....trough still not deep enough. No development of an ULL in the southern branch.

True but still a step in the right direction


It's incremental but again still 5-6 days out and we've seen some positive trends today...have to see what ENS and control run has.
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