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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3901 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:26 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Euro curve ball. Deeper trough.


Meaning what for who?


500mb was deeper and then it amped and resists the cold from driving. QPF shrinks dryslot and then doesn't get to freezing until Thurs morning on it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3902 Postby Cerlin » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:27 pm

Yeah I’m not biting on the Euro just yet. GFS and the new King are staying consistent and the NAM so far seems to be just behind the GFS with the front.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3903 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:28 pm

The Euro kuchera has a foot here :double:

Of course the Euro has been all over the place
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3904 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:28 pm

Cerlin wrote:Yeah I’m not biting on the Euro just yet. GFS and the new King are staying consistent and the NAM so far seems to be just behind the GFS with the front.


I know but you know it's going to bring the meltdown episodes we must have with every storm because it's the euro.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3905 Postby Haris » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:29 pm

Bubba nailed it. Here comes the emotional rollar coaster
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3906 Postby txtwister78 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:37 pm

Haris wrote:Bubba nailed it. Here comes the emotional rollar coaster


Yeah I think only if you're predicting "doomsday scenarios". Take the middle approach and throw out the other two extremes (nothing and the apocalypse).
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3907 Postby orangeblood » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:37 pm

Same Euro tricks, different year!! If it can’t figure out the frontal boundary location and subsequent frontogenisis it won’t have a clue. Euro one-off big changes only have credibility if you see it’s ENS back it up IMHO
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3908 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:38 pm

Haris wrote:Here comes the emotional rollar coaster


Taken verbatim, the 12z Euro is a nonevent for most of Texas with the only winter wx being confined to far NW Texas and the Panhandle.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3909 Postby HockeyTx82 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:39 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
Haris wrote:Here comes the emotional rollar coaster


Taken verbatim, the 12z Euro is a nonevent for most of Texas with the only winter wx being confined to far NW Texas and the Panhandle.


Winter Cancel.

See you in the Spring thread
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3910 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:42 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Haris wrote:Here comes the emotional rollar coaster


Taken verbatim, the 12z Euro is a nonevent for most of Texas with the only winter wx being confined to far NW Texas and the Panhandle.


Winter Cancel.

See you in the Spring thread


WPC is basically saying "Not so fast!"

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3911 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:44 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
HockeyTx82 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Taken verbatim, the 12z Euro is a nonevent for most of Texas with the only winter wx being confined to far NW Texas and the Panhandle.


Winter Cancel.

See you in the Spring thread


WPC is basically saying "Not so fast!"

https://s10.gifyu.com/images/prbww_sn25_DAY4_conus.gif
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Coming from the WPC tells me the NWS WFOs will lag a bit and be a little more optimistic than yesterday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3912 Postby Quixotic » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:44 pm

In that timeframe where the global models struggle just before NAM, WRF and HRRR can pick it up.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3913 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:44 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Haris wrote:Here comes the emotional rollar coaster


Taken verbatim, the 12z Euro is a nonevent for most of Texas with the only winter wx being confined to far NW Texas and the Panhandle.


Winter Cancel.

See you in the Spring thread


Don't put words in my mouth, just posting what the model shows.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3914 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:45 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
HockeyTx82 wrote:
Winter Cancel.

See you in the Spring thread


WPC is basically saying "Not so fast!"

https://s10.gifyu.com/images/prbww_sn25_DAY4_conus.gif
https://s10.gifyu.com/images/prbww_sn25_DAY4_conus.gif


Coming from the WPC tells me the NWS WFOs will lag a bit and be a little more optimistic than yesterday.


I'm thinking Tulsa putting out a snow forecast is not gonna be the only office they probably are coordinating for this afternoon
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3915 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:47 pm

Quixotic wrote:In that timeframe where the global models struggle just before NAM, WRF and HRRR can pick it up.


I'd agree except it's only the Euro :lol:. Unless the other models suite follows it, another fail because it was lagging cold it'll go on second tier rank of weight for a lot of us given recent history. A lot on the line for it! And really it had only gotten on board for about 1 day's worth of run cycles at the surface.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3916 Postby rwfromkansas » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:49 pm

I normally would be in at least a bit of a panic, but not this time since it has been inconsistent.

Trust me, I have seen enough of these things to go wrong that who knows. But, we tend to have these swings before they go back in line with the high-res models, so frankly I think everybody expected something like this to happen for a bit.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3917 Postby orangeblood » Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:52 pm

Quixotic wrote:In that timeframe where the global models struggle just before NAM, WRF and HRRR can pick it up.


Yep, can think of at least a half-dozen times for big winter weather events over the years the Euro does this….just a really weird glitch in its processing I guess
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3918 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:03 pm

Just beautiful - DFW, The Falls, OKC & Tulsa

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3919 Postby txtwister78 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:15 pm

Euro ENS still deliver the cold but delay it enough to keep things manageable across the N and C TX regions (removes most of precip by the time the freezing line arrives). Not quite the same 500mb presentation as the operational but a noticeable jump north.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#3920 Postby HockeyTx82 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:19 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
HockeyTx82 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
Taken verbatim, the 12z Euro is a nonevent for most of Texas with the only winter wx being confined to far NW Texas and the Panhandle.


Winter Cancel.

See you in the Spring thread


Don't put words in my mouth, just posting what the model shows.


Hahah, just getting it out of the way
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