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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#521 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:42 pm

Took a composite of the CPC d8 analogs (minus prior to 1979 since source for mapping doesn't include) and it's really not that hard a forecast. Just the details. We can probably expect a trend southward from the composite. Compared to the latest GEFS.

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#522 Postby orangeblood » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:48 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:There’s no reason for us to think this can’t produce something historic. Literally every sign that I possibly know of is pointing towards it. Now will it happen is the million dollar question. I think it will but we just don’t know the extent yet.


The only hesitation is, December is really early in the winter. The best quality of cold tends to happen in January and Feb. There isn't -50s or -60s in Canada to deliver. But with a good driver pattern you'll get the most of whatever is up there.


December can deliver though…with this Upper Level pattern, lowest sun angle of the year and the glacier being laid down across the northern US this coming week, this pattern is arguably a better longer duration setup than Feb 2021, 22
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#523 Postby Texas Snow » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:51 pm

Then it's going to reload, and launch the "Big One" in February!


Where are you seeing that?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#524 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:10 pm

Texas Snow wrote:
Then it's going to reload, and launch the "Big One" in February!


Where are you seeing that?


Larry Cosgrove has said this and the Euro weeklies have implied this as well. Middle of January there should be a thaw. After that the cold should reload.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#525 Postby Texas Snow » Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:13 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
Texas Snow wrote:
Then it's going to reload, and launch the "Big One" in February!


Where are you seeing that?


Larry Cosgrove has said this and the Euro weeklies have implied this as well. Middle of January there should be a thaw. After that the cold should reload.


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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#526 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:13 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:There’s no reason for us to think this can’t produce something historic. Literally every sign that I possibly know of is pointing towards it. Now will it happen is the million dollar question. I think it will but we just don’t know the extent yet.


The only hesitation is, December is really early in the winter. The best quality of cold tends to happen in January and Feb. There isn't -50s or -60s in Canada to deliver. But with a good driver pattern you'll get the most of whatever is up there.


December can deliver though…with this Upper Level pattern, lowest sun angle of the year and the glacier being laid down across the northern US this coming week, this pattern is arguably a better longer duration setup than Feb 2021, 22

Yep December 1983 sure did. I was a boy in San Antonio during that outbreak so I wouldn't mind a repeat in my middle aged years. Bring on a long duration event covering Christmas on into the New Year!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#527 Postby Itryatgolf » Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:37 pm

I believe there is some decent cold in Siberia that can be tapped and sent our way. That -wpo/epo connection
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#528 Postby Ghost0321 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:37 pm

I don’t really care how cold it gets as long as we get rid of these nasty 70s with high humidity
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#529 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:52 pm

Ghost0321 wrote:I don’t really care how cold it gets as long as we get rid of these nasty 70s with high humidity

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#530 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:56 pm

Itryatgolf wrote:I believe there is some decent cold in Siberia that can be tapped and sent our way. That -wpo/epo connection


Look at the latest H5 for Wednesday on the Euro. You can see some of that Siberian air threading the needle over here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#531 Postby Itryatgolf » Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:05 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:I believe there is some decent cold in Siberia that can be tapped and sent our way. That -wpo/epo connection


Look at the latest H5 for Wednesday on the Euro. You can see some of that Siberian air threading the needle over here.

I want to see a pattern supporting winter storms in the southern plains and mid south so we can have something to track
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#532 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:10 pm

Texas Snow wrote:
Then it's going to reload, and launch the "Big One" in February!


Where are you seeing that?


Cosgrove is saying this (well, about a relaxation in January implying a reload later, but that's as far as he goes...)

I think he's just speculating, but it wouldn't be surprising. Those who promote a cycling hypothesis also are saying the same effectively with a relaxation in January followed by cold, even into March. I'm skeptical of this method, but it's consistent.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#533 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:11 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#534 Postby txtwister78 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:26 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:
Texas Snow wrote:
Then it's going to reload, and launch the "Big One" in February!


Where are you seeing that?


Cosgrove is saying this (well, about a relaxation in January implying a reload later, but that's as far as he goes...)

I think he's just speculating, but it wouldn't be surprising. Those who promote a cycling hypothesis also are saying the same effectively with a relaxation in January followed by cold, even into March. I'm skeptical of this method, but it's consistent.


I think you watch the EPO (at least for us). The weeklies have it going positive just after the New Year and so that would support the relaxation prediction he's implying. Now whether that means this pattern reloads into late January or Feb is anyone's guess this far out. I think as long as you keep that -AO going then it's certainly possible.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#535 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:27 pm


Wow those are bold words for 11 days out. Rarely do you see a local met got out on a limb that far out. If OKC gets all that what will DFW get???
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#536 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:35 pm

Our TV met just mentioned it could be our first real winter and lets remember its technically snowed twice already :lol: :double: and we barely got above freezing another day though we've yet to have an icy commute or anything
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#537 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:07 am

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#538 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:35 am

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#539 Postby HockeyTx82 » Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:38 am

Looks like SPC dropped the SVR weather for NTX and Oklahoma and and going for east of DFW now. What changed?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#540 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:39 am

HockeyTx82 wrote:Looks like SPC dropped the SVR weather for NTX and Oklahoma and and going fir east of DFW now. What changed?

Setup may have become more unfavorable for Next Monday, but Next Tuesday :eek:
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