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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6681 Postby gboudx » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:49 am

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Iceresistance wrote:My friend (Underthwx) just got a hold of me through Email, he has 1-2 inches of snow in Sweeny, TX. his pipes are frozen & is going to try to heat his well as far as I know . . .


Thank you for the update! We hope he can stay warm and get through this.


Can pipes freeze, but not bust or spring a leak?


It depends. For example my house was built in 2013 and all the interior water lines use Pex tubing which expands. We've had the water freeze in the past and never had an issue. Now the outside faucets are different. We had 1 of those burst and it only showed when I tried to turn the faucet on. This was a few years ago. I expect the same may happen now even though I have them covered with towels and the styrofoam caps.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6682 Postby Texas Snow » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:53 am

You need to see this in motion so here is a link. Visible satellite shows snow over the entire state. :eek:

Also can clearly see lake effect snow.

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=subregional-Texas-02-24-1-100-1&checked=map&colorbar=undefined
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6683 Postby kassi » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:59 am

Texas Snow wrote:It’s been talked about the effects on wildlife and it will be devastating for many. We went walking in the storm last night and saw dead birds, not just under trees but even one in the middle of a street. Don’t know if it just gave up the ghost in flight or not but I never really see dead birds around, and we saw multiple before it even got too extreme .

There have been thousands of Robins in our neighborhood alone over the past week, so probably hundreds of thousands or more area wide, that apparently are migrating through. Since they aren’t nesting a think that is one species that may get hit in addition to fish, etc.

One potential positive, with most people locked in their own house much of the week, Covid numbers could improve greatly.

We have 3 cats outside that we feed. They are very nervous kitties and won't let anyone get close to them. They were strays that we started feeding. We have indoor pets as well, who seem to hate the snow and ice and don't want to go outside. Anyway, I am worried about them as there is no way they will come inside. I fed them this morning and they were ok. We had a low of 20° when 22° was forecast. Tonight is supposed to be 10° (although last night was a few degrees colder than predicted). Any recommendations? We have a separated garage that we left a door open to and put boxes and blankets in them. I'm worried for them tonight. It's going to be much colder.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6684 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:02 am

From NWS-San Angelo

BECAUSE OF POWER OUTAGES AND ROLLING BLACKOUTS, THE CITY OF
HASKELL HAS OPENED UP THE HASKELL CIVIC CENTER AS A WARMING
SHELTER. IT IS LOCATED AT 200 SOUTH AVENUE B UNTIL FURTHER
NOTICE.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6685 Postby ztshanklin » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:07 am

Browndog wrote:First two of my truck are on N Loop 281 in Longview this morning.

https://imgur.com/5JuC02p
https://imgur.com/7QI0W1i

I'm not sure what the true total in Longview ended up. Flat open areas between 12-14" seemed common. I drove through some places where the snow was at least 18". Snow is so powdery, it's actually really easy to drive in compared to most winter events.


These are at my house on Lake Cherokee south of Longview. We had a lot more sleet here and missed out on the snow from the original Dallas band. We really made up for it with the main show after midnight! 8-12" out here at the lake.

https://imgur.com/QMu8WuA
https://imgur.com/xPd1egP
https://imgur.com/Dxzh97O
https://imgur.com/ULBR2lY


What section are you? We are NK but nobody has been out there to drip faucets (we all live southwest metroplex)
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6686 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:09 am

From the FWD AFD, rates won't be as impressive and some areas will deal precipitation type but overall should be more moisture overall than this 1st system.

Accumulations remain uncertain due to a variety of precip types,
but storm total liquid equivalents will range from around a
quarter of an inch across the western counties to near one inch
across the east. The greatest impacts could be anywhere in that
region depending on a multitude of parameters, which we should be
able to narrow down over the next couple of shifts. Any
accumulating precipitation would only exacerbate ongoing travel
issues, as winter precip over the past 24 hours will not have had
any opportunity to melt between now and then.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6687 Postby weatherdude1108 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:14 am

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6688 Postby cstrunk » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:15 am

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6689 Postby HockeyTx82 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:18 am

Well I still don't have power. Turned on the water back to the house to fill the tub only to drain again.

My kitchen sink does not work now, which is odd and concerning because it's an interior island sink. All other spigots worked. Outside is frozen up, hopefully no damage.

I'm done with this.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6690 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:19 am

Texas Snow wrote:It’s been talked about the effects on wildlife and it will be devastating for many. We went walking in the storm last night and saw dead birds, not just under trees but even one in the middle of a street. Don’t know if it just gave up the ghost in flight or not but I never really see dead birds around, and we saw multiple before it even got too extreme .

There have been thousands of Robins in our neighborhood alone over the past week, so probably hundreds of thousands or more area wide, that apparently are migrating through. Since they aren’t nesting a think that is one species that may get hit in addition to fish, etc.

One potential positive, with most people locked in their own house much of the week, Covid numbers could improve greatly.

I have been mentioning the possible Covid effects of this storm for a couple days to my friends. Should be interesting if it helps.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6691 Postby Browndog » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:24 am

What section are you? We are NK but nobody has been out there to drip faucets (we all live southwest metroplex)[/quote]

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6692 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:29 am

I think this will be predominate snow for along I-20 and to the North and has potential to be a lot. Some models are too quick to erode the cold dome some. I'm surprised FW hasn't triggered the winter storm watch like OUN has given we are so close now to event now.

bubba hotep wrote:From the FWD AFD, rates won't be as impressive and some areas will deal precipitation type but overall should be more moisture overall than this 1st system.

Accumulations remain uncertain due to a variety of precip types,
but storm total liquid equivalents will range from around a
quarter of an inch across the western counties to near one inch
across the east. The greatest impacts could be anywhere in that
region depending on a multitude of parameters, which we should be
able to narrow down over the next couple of shifts. Any
accumulating precipitation would only exacerbate ongoing travel
issues, as winter precip over the past 24 hours will not have had
any opportunity to melt between now and then.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6693 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:38 am

The snow reminds me of the packed powder I used to ski on. Not as dry and fluffy as the snow during the feb 2011 event but I would guess that’s due to the relative warm nose that occurred.

I’m concerned about the prospects of sleet and freezing rain with the next system. Glad it’s more of an issue with storm 2 than it was with storm 1, but the qpf rates look a bit heavier and we could still be below freezing for another 2 days after.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6694 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:41 am

Ntxw wrote:I think this will be predominate snow for along I-20 and to the North and has potential to be a lot. Some models are too quick to erode the cold dome some. I'm surprised FW hasn't triggered the winter storm watch like OUN has given we are so close now to event now.

bubba hotep wrote:From the FWD AFD, rates won't be as impressive and some areas will deal precipitation type but overall should be more moisture overall than this 1st system.

Accumulations remain uncertain due to a variety of precip types,
but storm total liquid equivalents will range from around a
quarter of an inch across the western counties to near one inch
across the east. The greatest impacts could be anywhere in that
region depending on a multitude of parameters, which we should be
able to narrow down over the next couple of shifts. Any
accumulating precipitation would only exacerbate ongoing travel
issues, as winter precip over the past 24 hours will not have had
any opportunity to melt between now and then.


Then that would be me. :eek:

NWS-Norman calling for 6-8 inches in Central Oklahoma . . .
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6695 Postby gboudx » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:41 am

Ntxw wrote:I think this will be predominate snow for along I-20 and to the North and has potential to be a lot. Some models are too quick to erode the cold dome some. I'm surprised FW hasn't triggered the winter storm watch like OUN has given we are so close now to event now.

bubba hotep wrote:From the FWD AFD, rates won't be as impressive and some areas will deal precipitation type but overall should be more moisture overall than this 1st system.

Accumulations remain uncertain due to a variety of precip types,
but storm total liquid equivalents will range from around a
quarter of an inch across the western counties to near one inch
across the east. The greatest impacts could be anywhere in that
region depending on a multitude of parameters, which we should be
able to narrow down over the next couple of shifts. Any
accumulating precipitation would only exacerbate ongoing travel
issues, as winter precip over the past 24 hours will not have had
any opportunity to melt between now and then.



I suspect they are close to issuing it based on the mention in the AFD.
In either case, aWinter Storm Watch will need to be issued soon, and normally one
would be issued at this point as we near the 36 hour window.
However, after collaborating with the neighbors who are currently
dealing with ongoing moderate to heavy snow as we are, we will
likely wait until today`s precipitation comes to an end and the
current warning expires before adding any new headlines.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6696 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:41 am

Ntxw wrote:I think this will be predominate snow for along I-20 and to the North and has potential to be a lot. Some models are too quick to erode the cold dome some. I'm surprised FW hasn't triggered the winter storm watch like OUN has given we are so close now to event now.

bubba hotep wrote:From the FWD AFD, rates won't be as impressive and some areas will deal precipitation type but overall should be more moisture overall than this 1st system.

Accumulations remain uncertain due to a variety of precip types,
but storm total liquid equivalents will range from around a
quarter of an inch across the western counties to near one inch
across the east. The greatest impacts could be anywhere in that
region depending on a multitude of parameters, which we should be
able to narrow down over the next couple of shifts. Any
accumulating precipitation would only exacerbate ongoing travel
issues, as winter precip over the past 24 hours will not have had
any opportunity to melt between now and then.

Hope you’re right. I recall in the discussion yesterday that they were going to wait til today in order to avoid confusion, I would expect it with the afternoon package.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6697 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:44 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
Ntxw wrote:I think this will be predominate snow for along I-20 and to the North and has potential to be a lot. Some models are too quick to erode the cold dome some. I'm surprised FW hasn't triggered the winter storm watch like OUN has given we are so close now to event now.

bubba hotep wrote:From the FWD AFD, rates won't be as impressive and some areas will deal precipitation type but overall should be more moisture overall than this 1st system.


Hope you’re right. I recall in the discussion yesterday that they were going to wait til today in order to avoid confusion, I would expect it with the afternoon package.


I hope so too. The CMC and ECMWF have been fairly consistent with it while the American model suites have been back and forth. I know I dogged on the Euro before but it was about consistency.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6698 Postby rwfromkansas » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:45 am

In light of the recovery from this situation they frankly don’t need to issue one as quickly, but surely this afternoon.
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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6699 Postby Ntxw » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:52 am

Fwiw DFW managed to get down to 4F this morning. That ties 10th all time lowest.

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Re: Texas Winter 2020-2021

#6700 Postby Texas Snowman » Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:53 am

kassi wrote:
Texas Snow wrote:It’s been talked about the effects on wildlife and it will be devastating for many. We went walking in the storm last night and saw dead birds, not just under trees but even one in the middle of a street. Don’t know if it just gave up the ghost in flight or not but I never really see dead birds around, and we saw multiple before it even got too extreme .

There have been thousands of Robins in our neighborhood alone over the past week, so probably hundreds of thousands or more area wide, that apparently are migrating through. Since they aren’t nesting a think that is one species that may get hit in addition to fish, etc.

One potential positive, with most people locked in their own house much of the week, Covid numbers could improve greatly.

We have 3 cats outside that we feed. They are very nervous kitties and won't let anyone get close to them. They were strays that we started feeding. We have indoor pets as well, who seem to hate the snow and ice and don't want to go outside. Anyway, I am worried about them as there is no way they will come inside. I fed them this morning and they were ok. We had a low of 20° when 22° was forecast. Tonight is supposed to be 10° (although last night was a few degrees colder than predicted). Any recommendations? We have a separated garage that we left a door open to and put boxes and blankets in them. I'm worried for them tonight. It's going to be much colder.


I’m not sure what more you can do than provide them with the options you already have. I’m hoping and praying that they and many others will find the refuge they need. Not a good week to be a bird or animal outside.
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