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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#901 Postby weatherdude1108 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:26 pm

Cpv17 wrote:I hope you central Texas folks can get some good rain. Not too excited about this event here in southeast TX. Looks like less than an inch for us.


The rain is very nice. But based on these WPC forecasts, I'm thinking this may be a case where it's too much of a good thing, especially since our lakes are near/at capacity. :double:

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But it beats 90s and 100s! :P
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#902 Postby weatherdude1108 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:15 pm

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Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio TX
314 PM CDT Mon Apr 22 2019

.SHORT TERM (Tonight through Tuesday Night)...
Breaks in a dense cirrus canopy streaming ahead of a closed low over
Arizona/California have allowed for a broad, flat cumulus field to
develop this afternoon. The development of these cumulus clouds is
heralding the return of lower level moisture into the region. Expect
enough moisture to return overnight to allow for fog and patchy
drizzle or light rain to spread across much of the Interstate 35
corridor by the start of the morning commute with lows only falling
into the mid to upper 60s. Patchy drizzle or rain will linger into
the morning hours with a few showers or possibly a thunderstorm
developing across Central Texas or the Hill Country as a weak
disturbance ahead of the approaching upper low translates across the
region.

Forecast soundings show at least some weak capping lingering across
the region during the day Tuesday, helping to limit overall
thunderstorm potential, but height falls ahead of the approaching
upper low will help erode at least some of the cap across the Rio
Grande during the late afternoon and evening hours. High resolution
guidance shows that a few discrete thunderstorms should be able to
develop along the Rio Grande into Val Verde County during this time
and with mid-level lapse rates approaching 8 C/km, 0-6 km bulk shear
exceeding 50 knots, and over 1500 J/kg CAPE some of these storms may
become strong or severe. Continued height falls are also expected to
induce a surface low or wave in southwest or west central Texas
along a slow-moving cold front, which may overtake the initial round
of activity that develops along the Rio Grande Tuesday night.

As the surface low nudges towards the east Tuesday night, pulling
the attendant frontal boundary farther south into the Hill
Country/Central Texas. Increasing forcing for ascent and a 40-50 knot
low level jet feeding into the low will result in showers and
thunderstorms developing along and north of the frontal boundary
Tuesday night into Wednesday morning. This, combined with
precipitable water values surging over 1.4 inches, will allow for a
threat for at least locally heavy rain to enter the forecast for the
Hill Country and Central Texas.

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.LONG TERM (Wednesday through Monday)...
Showers and thunderstorms will linger along the frontal boundary
Wednesday and Wednesday night as the main upper level system
translates across the region. Slightly different placements for the
frontal boundary will ultimately affect who sees the heaviest rain
during this time. Confidence continues to remain low with the
boundary location as the GFS/NAM have continued their trend of
shifting the heaviest rainfall more north of the region coincident
with where the best 850 MB convergence is... while the European
continues its more southerly solution in South Central Texas.
Will
have to watch where this 850 MB axis is located for future
adjustments to rain amounts as there are some signals for this system
to overperform with the amount of rain it produces, but for now
continuing with the 1-2 inch forecast amounts for areas along and
north of a Del Rio to Bastrop to San Antonio line with isolated 2-4
inch amounts possible.

Rain will end from west to east by Thursday morning as the main
system exits the region with temperatures in the mid 70s to low 80s
at the end of the work week warming into the mid 80s to lower 90s
over the weekend
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#903 Postby Ntxw » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:24 pm

GOES WEST shows a good fetch from the tropics (Pacific side) towards Texas. The inland metropolises likely will get some good rains the next few days.

Beyond that I would look towards early May. EPAC may give us a boost regardless if a system forms or not due to the flare up likely to occur south/southwest of Mexico.
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#904 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:01 pm

Bit of an eastward shift by WPC putting the jackpot pretty near DFW

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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#905 Postby Haris » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:14 pm

I really feel bad for Brownsvile/Deep S TX. Never get any rain there.
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#906 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:26 pm

Models are struggling a bit with this setup, 00z 3k NAM from yesterday 4.3" for DFW, newest 00z run for DFW... 0.3" :double:
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#907 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:50 am

Not a drop out of our 70% chance of overnight heavy rain. Hopefully the high chances today, tonight and tomorrow fare better.
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#908 Postby CaptinCrunch » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:09 am

Yukon Cornelius wrote:Not a drop out of our 70% chance of overnight heavy rain. Hopefully the high chances today, tonight and tomorrow fare better.


The bulk of the rain is moving across central Oklahoma. As of now it looks like that is where it will be today.
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#909 Postby funster » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:13 am

NWS Fort Worth going with 2-4 inches, plus isolated 5-6 inch. Large area of 2-4 includes DFW

 https://twitter.com/NWSFortWorth/status/1120705943300395009


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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#910 Postby EnnisTx » Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:00 pm

Yukon Cornelius wrote:Not a drop out of our 70% chance of overnight heavy rain. Hopefully the high chances today, tonight and tomorrow fare better.



You were just in that 30% group that wasn't supposed to get any! :hehe:
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#911 Postby Haris » Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:50 pm

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New flood watch
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#912 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:41 pm

Wow! 18z 3k NAM dumps on DFW with widespread 4-5"+
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#913 Postby weatherdude1108 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:19 pm

EWX discussion:

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio TX
354 PM CDT Tue Apr 23 2019

.SHORT TERM (Tonight through Wednesday Night)...
An active short term forecast is expected for South Central Texas.
For tonight, Severe Thunderstorm Watch 95 is in effect for Val Verde
County through 11 PM CDT. Visible satellite imagery has shown nearly
persistent cloud cover across Val Verde County through the day, which
has helped limit overall destabilization, but nearly full insolation
along the Serranias del Burro have resulted in an agitated cumulus
field with the DRT radar showing developing showers. SPC Mesoanalysis
shows over 50 knots of southwesterly effective bulk shear,
encouraging additional thunderstorm organization. As these
thunderstorms become more organized, convection allowing models
indicate that these storms will make a run for the Rio Grande later
this evening. Despite the cloud cover, dew points in the upper 60s
are contributing to SBCAPEs in excess of 2500 J/kg which will help
storms maintain themselves as they approach the Rio Grande. This
will also allow them to advantage of steeper mid-level lapse rates
of 7 C/km and encourage a large hail threat for parts of Val Verde.

Farther north, convection continues to fire along a frontal boundary
draped roughly along Interstate 20. Higher resolution guidance has
been fairly consistent in advertising strong enough cold pool
development with these thunderstorms that the cold front may actually
be driven farther south than global guidance indicates by sunrise
(into Central Texas/the Hill Country). Should this happen, this will
set up the potential for training showers and thunderstorms as
increasing forcing from an upper low diving across Chihuahua tonight
into the Big Bend arrives.
For the remainder of tonight, expect most
of the shower and thunderstorm activity to remain relegated to the
northern tier of counties with rainfall amounts up to one inch
possible.

During the day Wednesday, the location of the aforementioned frontal
boundary will have huge implications for which areas see the heaviest
rainfall but expect the frontal boundary to be near the northern
border of the forecast area. The approach of the upper low will allow
for the left front quadrant of an upper level jet to nose into
Central Texas. While the initial approach of this upper level jet is
expected to be during the morning hours (usually the most stable time
of the day), increasing divergence aloft will help to accelerate rain
rates across portions of Central Texas and the Hill Country. With
forecast precipitable water values rising to near 1.5 inches,
enhanced lift, and a slow-moving frontal boundary, have concerns that
a localized flash flood threat may materialize for parts of the
eastern Hill Country into Central Texas and have issued a Flash Flood
Watch through the day Wednesday as a result. Current expectations
for rainfall amounts in the watch area are in the 2 to 4 inch range,
but isolated higher amounts in the 4 to 6 inch range appear possible
based on ensemble plumes and high resolution QPF output.
Based on
these forecast amounts, rises to at least action stage on rivers and
creeks are also possible during the day Wednesday.

Despite persistent cloud cover during the day, at least some
destabilization during the peak of the diurnal cycle and strong
forcing for ascent will allow for some thunderstorm intensification
during the afternoon hours. Cannot rule out some large hail, but
expect gusty winds to be the main concern with freezing levels above
12,000 feet AGL and updrafts becoming water loaded as the
thunderstorms translate east. Backed surface flow in the vicinity of
the cold front may also create for an isolated tornado threat.

Analysis of dProg/dt trends during the evening hours show the upper
low beginning to accelerate away from the region and expect the flash
flood and severe threat to taper off during the evening as the main
system translates away from the region. A few showers and
thunderstorms may linger Wednesday night as the system moves farther
east.

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.LONG TERM (Thursday through Tuesday)...
The front and associated rain push out of the area by early Thursday
morning, leaving the region in a NW flow. A gradual dry and warming
period takes hold. As the subsequent surface high tails the front,
winds will veer to a SE flow early Saturday.

Broad ridging over the central CONUS will struggle to build over the
weekend due to an embedded stream feature resulting in zonal flow
aloft. The GFS is an outlier with handling this feature by deepening
it as it moves over the Northern Plains and Midwest, then tries to
bring a backdoor front into the region on Sunday. If this scenario
proves true, limited moisture return to over the area would only
result in a minimal amount of rain even if the forcing makes it to
southcentral Texas.

The warmest day of the forecast look to be either Sunday or Monday
with highs for I-35 sites reaching the mid to upper 80's and mid 90's
out west. With persistent SE flow for most of the long term period,
clouds return over the area by Monday with the possiblity of streamer
showers developing on Tuesday.
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#914 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:39 pm

This went from being a south central Texas event to now a north central event. Doesn’t even look all that great for Austin anymore.

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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#915 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:46 pm

Cpv17 wrote:This went from being a south central Texas event to now a north central event. Doesn’t even look all that great for Austin anymore.

https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p168i.gif?1556055488


Front movement has given the models fits and that will determine focus of heaviest rain.
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#916 Postby Haris » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:41 pm

Still expecting 2-3" here in Austin. The globals are struggling with the extent of the cold pooling of the storms in NTX. TTU WRF , NAM, Euro still showing 2-3" + down here. Feeling pretty good.
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#917 Postby gpsnowman » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:44 pm

Nice storm over Irving. Heavy rain with some T&L. I'll take it. Hope to see a lot of this over the next 24 hours.
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#918 Postby Ntxw » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:00 pm

Stalled front NW of DFW just. Areas along and southeast of this feature will be in play for training. You can already see in radar how it is lining up. DFW airport initially so far has picked up a bit of a third of an inch.

We've seen this kind of set up several times the past few years all yielding some localized very heavy rain.

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Fed by the flare up southwest of Mexico.

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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#919 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:12 pm

I just hope we can get at least 1” down here. That’s all I ask for lol
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Re: Texas Spring 2019

#920 Postby fendie » Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:18 pm

Haris wrote:Still expecting 2-3" here in Austin. The globals are struggling with the extent of the cold pooling of the storms in NTX. TTU WRF , NAM, Euro still showing 2-3" + down here. Feeling pretty good.


Agreed. NWS forecast discussion from Austin/San Antonio this afternoon mentioned how high resolution guidance is picking up on the cold pool from storms currently along the front pushing the front further south into Central TX than previously modeled. This same solution has been mentioned as a possibility in the Weather Prediction Center Excessive Rainfall products for a couple of days now. As of now the front seems to have stalled, but training storms are already developing.

A look at the current South Plains Radar shows storms filling in along and southeast of the front. It’s possible with moisture return picking up this evening that high rain rates will be maintained after dark even with the loss of daytime heating.

If the front is able to sag south of Waco then the forcing along the front will have even more moisture to work with. Training storms along the front before the upper level low clears the region Thursday morning will likely result in widespread 2-4” rainfall totals with isolated areas of 6-8”. It will be interesting watching the fronts movement (or lack thereof) overnight.

Current Radar at 7:00 PM Central:

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HRRR Reflectivity at 11:00 AM Central:

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TX-Tech WRF Reflectivity at 11:00 AM Central:

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