High -Res GOM Water Temp Map

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High -Res GOM Water Temp Map

#1 Postby f5 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:35 pm

does anyone know where i can find a high-res map of Rita's jet fuel?
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#2 Postby WindRunner » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:39 pm

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#3 Postby jkt21787 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:42 pm

Heat Content...
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dataphod1/work/HHP/NEW/2005262go.jpg

Do notice its rather low the closer you approach TX.
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#4 Postby SouthernWx » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:45 pm

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#5 Postby jkt21787 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:48 pm

SouthernWx wrote:The GOM sst chart I utilize....

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/d ... fmex.c.gif

PW

Thats the one I like. Notice, while the warmest values are in Rita's path and they are well sustainable for a strong storm, those numbers are NOWHERE near what they were in Katrina's path.
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#6 Postby Mac » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:55 pm

jkt21787 wrote:
SouthernWx wrote:The GOM sst chart I utilize....

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/d ... fmex.c.gif

PW

Thats the one I like. Notice, while the warmest values are in Rita's path and they are well sustainable for a strong storm, those numbers are NOWHERE near what they were in Katrina's path.


30 to 31 C is plenty warm enough to sustain a sub-900 storm, given all other synoptic factors likewise being favorable. Unfortunately, about the only thing she won't have going for her is a little dry air. But if she gets as big as it looks like she might, I'm not so sure a little dry air is going to put that big of a dent in her quarter panel.
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#7 Postby wxmann_91 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:59 pm

http://fermi.jhuapl.edu/avhrr/gm/averages/05sep/

BTW, compare the water temps from today to the water temps a day before Katrina formed.

No comparison.

And you might want to read this:

With all other factors being equal, being "off" by a mere 0.5°C (1°F) can be the difference between a storm that rapidly intensifies to one that falls apart!


(from http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/H7.html)
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#8 Postby f5 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:52 pm

it was great she weakened just a tad even though katrina hit those 90+ drgree water temperature but it looks as if she came in as a CAT 5 based on Mississippi towns wiped off the map
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#9 Postby FunkMasterB » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:58 pm

but it looks as if she came in as a CAT 5 based on Mississippi towns wiped off the map

Storm surge looked like a Cat 5, but wind damage looked more like strong Cat 3 (lots of trees still standing).
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#10 Postby mtm4319 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:58 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:http://fermi.jhuapl.edu/avhrr/gm/averages/05sep/

BTW, compare the water temps from today to the water temps a day before Katrina formed.

No comparison.


The problem is that once temperatures reach a certain point, category 5 storms can theoretically sustain themselves quite easily. The temperatures this summer are past that point. Here, the entire potential path could support a category 5 under optimal conditions.
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#11 Postby oneness » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:04 am

mtm4319 wrote:The temperatures this summer are past that point. Here, the entire potential path could support a category 5 under optimal conditions.



Now that says it all. :eek:
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#12 Postby soonertwister » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:05 am

C'mon please!

Temps might have been a degree or two warmer for Katrina at most. Warm water depths weren't as deep, and upwelling was more significant for Katrina than is likely for Rita, because Katrina was moving slower.

And even venerable Max Mayfield has said that above a certain point, intensity due to surface temps is very much overestimated.

Talk about sheer, troughs, acts of God. The temperature every single place in the Gulf is EASILY enough to support a category 5 hurricane.

If you feel fine at 98.6, do you feel deathly ill at 100.0?

I don't think so. This whole subject is off topic as far as I am concerned. I certainly won't bother to comment further.
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#13 Postby oneness » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:11 am

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#14 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:59 am

anyone notice what galveston bay or and the water right near there??? scary :eek: :eek: :eek:
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