Large Flareup of Convection in SW Caribbean

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Large Flareup of Convection in SW Caribbean

#1 Postby wxmann_91 » Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:22 am

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/watl-ir4-loop.html

I don't see a topic on this yet, but I do believe that if this area stays over water, it can develop.

Note the upper-level anticyclone over it:
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8shr.html

And the decreasing shear values around it:
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8sht.html

However, it is a battle between land and water. The steering currents are fairly weak (as would be expected in the Caribbean this time of year), but they are westerly. For this thing to develop it has to move north.
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8dlm1.html

Any comments? I am not sure if this was the same wave that was 92L, and this doesn't have much chance unless it stalls over water, but it's worth a mention.
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#2 Postby Sanibel » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:23 am

We've had nothing but cool air up here after Wilma. A stationary trough-like feature has linged over the Caribbean/West Atlantic since Wilma as well. We have been on the cool/dry side for over a week.

Our SST's here are down to 73*.


That should be it for 2005...
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#3 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:26 am

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Hopefully we won't see anything more in 2005. But I say there may
be a weak/hybrid tropical storm possible out of this over the next 5
days....as for its path...too early to tell....
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#4 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:29 am

well the canadian takes this"energy" and moves it north into the gulf

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#5 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:41 am

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Shear is gradually reducing over this area, and SSTs are plenty warm
over the NW Caribbean. I say development is possible to a strong
tropical storm, possibly a hurricane over the NW Caribbean. But
if this system is to enter the GOM, cooler SSTs in the GOM would
weaken it slightly. So a weak hurricane in the NW Caribbean would
lend itself to a strong TS in the Southern GOM. But it is TOO early
to tell if this system is going to reach the GOM or if it will end up
doing any combination of a number of other things. But it ought
to be monitored IMHO.
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#6 Postby sponger » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:00 pm

Some of those shear values in the Atlantic are incredible. 100 mph via the JetStream. I would love to see what that could do to a cat 5!
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#7 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:05 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook

Statement as of 11:30 am EST on November 3, 2005

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico...
An area of cloudiness and showers is located over the northwestern Caribbean Sea and adjacent portions of Honduras and Nicaragua. Development...if any...should be slow to occur due to proximity to land.

Elsewhere...tropical storm formation is not expected through Friday.

Forecaster Beven


At least the NHC mentions it!
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#8 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:14 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Tropical Weather Outlook

Statement as of 11:30 am EST on November 3, 2005

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico...
An area of cloudiness and showers is located over the northwestern Caribbean Sea and adjacent portions of Honduras and Nicaragua. Development...if any...should be slow to occur due to proximity to land.

Elsewhere...tropical storm formation is not expected through Friday.

Forecaster Beven


At least the NHC mentions it!


This is either bordm for them or Interesting...
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#9 Postby boca » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:30 pm

This area could just be a frontal wave moving up the front stuck down there.
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#10 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:32 pm

Convection continues to flare up all around the Western Caribbean and the Southern Caribbean. If this continues to happen over the next few days we may see a weak low pressure develop in the area. I'm not calling for development in the near future, but a weak low pressure area is possible.
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#11 Postby boca » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:37 pm

I hope if somethings gets going it will move NE away from Florida.
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#12 Postby wxmann_91 » Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:37 pm

Area near Honduras has waned, but a new flareup has appeared east of Nicaragua. Overall, this suggests that much of the western Caribbean is still quite unstable and unsettled, and shear is low. However, the squeeze play is still on; there is little space between the high shear to the north and land to the south.

Forecasted shear for the next three days: http://www.wunderground.com/data/640x480/atlm_shear.gif
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#13 Postby tampaflwx » Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:27 pm

those look like some pretty cold cloud tops east of nicaragua..

that would be pretty strange as well to have a second storm so soon to develop in that region.......
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#14 Postby Praxus » Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:41 pm

Floater 1 is on it.
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#15 Postby fuzzyblow » Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:38 am

More convection tonight...
Maybe a low soon :?:
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#16 Postby TheEuropean » Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:22 am

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This has to be watched.
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#17 Postby wxmann_91 » Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:37 am

I'll change the thread title tomorrow morning should trends continue. Anticyclone is moving southeastward toward the area east of Nicaragua and cloud tops are cold.

CLOUDINESS AND SHOWERS OVER THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA HAVE
DIMINISHED. AN AREA OF DISORGANIZED CLOUDINESS AND SHOWERS IS
LOCATED OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE ADJACENT LAND
AREAS. DEVELOPMENT...IF ANY...SHOULD BE SLOW TO OCCUR.


10:30 PM TWO.
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#18 Postby Brent » Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:48 am

Sure looks unsettled. :eek:
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#19 Postby Rainband » Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:34 am

Brent wrote:Sure looks unsettled. :eek:
I agree :eek:
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#20 Postby Cookiely » Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:54 am

The convection in that area is certainly persistent.
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