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Isabel

#1 Postby Gary335 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:50 pm

I hope I've posted this in the right place, if not I apologize. I saw discussions about other past hurricanes, so this seemed to be the best place.

Anyways, I live in MD and back in 2003 experienced the wrath of Hurricane (or rather Tropical Storm) Isabel. I'm trying to find any footage of television coverage of it that I can. In particular I'm trying to find Weather Channel coverage of it, but anything will do at this point. I'd appreciate any help anyone might be able to offer! 8-)
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#2 Postby O Town » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:02 pm

Have you tried YouTube?

http://tinyurl.com/2cvc3u
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Re: Isabel

#3 Postby Gary335 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:15 pm

Yes. There didn't seem to be too much there though. Mostly homemade videos.
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Re: Isabel

#4 Postby philnyc » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:35 pm

Gary335 wrote:I hope I've posted this in the right place, if not I apologize. I saw discussions about other past hurricanes, so this seemed to be the best place.

Anyways, I live in MD and back in 2003 experienced the wrath of Hurricane (or rather Tropical Storm) Isabel. I'm trying to find any footage of television coverage of it that I can. In particular I'm trying to find Weather Channel coverage of it, but anything will do at this point. I'd appreciate any help anyone might be able to offer! 8-)


Hi Gary,
Are you doing video only? I wrote something up on Isabel that describes the whole history of the storm and contains two short movies of the storm track from Africa to landfall in the U.S. If you want it I'll put the link in here. Also, I think I have some TWC coverage on tape, but I'd have to dig - this could take a week or two. Let me know.
Phil
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Re: Isabel

#5 Postby Gary335 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:53 pm

Actually, I'd love to see your write-up if you'd like to post the link. As for the TWC coverage, there's no hurry. Just put it up whenever your able to dig it up. 8-)
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Re: Isabel

#6 Postby vacanechaser » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:20 am

i dont have any tv coverage, but i have my own... as well as some from mark...

my write up and photos: http://www.vastormphoto.com/isabel2003.htm

my video link- large file: http://www.vastormphoto.com/media/isabelmedia.wmv

marks write up and photos: http://www.hurricanetrack.com/isabel2003.html

marks video link: http://www.hurricanetrack.com/videogall ... el2003.wmv


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Re: Isabel

#7 Postby Gary335 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:28 am

Thanks for posting! 8-)

If anyone else can help with this, I would really appreciate it! Like I said, I'm mostly trying to find TV coverage of Isabel from the Weather Channel and other sources, but write ups and personal videos are good too.
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Re: Isabel

#8 Postby philnyc » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:43 pm

Gary335 wrote:Actually, I'd love to see your write-up if you'd like to post the link. As for the TWC coverage, there's no hurry. Just put it up whenever your able to dig it up. 8-)



OK - here's the link to my write-up:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/p/z/pzl112/Meteo%20241/PROJECT_3%20HURRICANE%20ISABEL%202003.htm

I found the video, but cannot upload it - it's copyrighted. It's actually an hour long tape from Richard Horodner which has TWC stuff in it. So although I'd love to share, I think you'd have to contact him and get a copy anyway. I'm sure he'd oblige.

I hope you like the write-up. Please let me know what you think.
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Re: Isabel

#9 Postby wjs3 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:49 pm

Phil:

I knew it was only a matter of time before you found a thread called "Isabel".

Nice work in the e-port.

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Re: Isabel

#10 Postby Gary335 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:48 pm

Phil, I loved your write-up! Very well done!

How would I go about contacting Mr. Horodner about his tape?
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Re: Isabel

#11 Postby philnyc » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:32 am

Gary335 wrote:Phil, I loved your write-up! Very well done!

How would I go about contacting Mr. Horodner about his tape?


Thanks, Gary. Glad you liked it. For Richard's stuff, try this:

http://www.hurricanevideo.citymax.com/catalog/item/613558/246280.htm

or this:

http://www.weather.gov/os/reachout/res-videos.shtml (Just search for horodner)

Once again, thanks. If you're doing a project on Isabel, please keep me in on it (PM me.) My only desires are to learn and teach.

Phil
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Re: Isabel

#12 Postby philnyc » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:34 am

wjs3 wrote:Phil:

I knew it was only a matter of time before you found a thread called "Isabel".

Nice work in the e-port.

WJS3


Ha-ha to your first line. And of course I'll bet you saw my eyes light up all the way from Chicago!

And I could only say the same about your work, my friend.

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Re: Isabel

#13 Postby Gary335 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:28 pm

Anyone else out there that might have something?
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#14 Postby Berwick Bay » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:58 pm

Wanted to add this before the topic falls off the board. It seems to me that Isabel was a precursor to all of the Cat 5 Storms which we saw in '05. Isabel was in '03 (I think), and she was unique in that she held such a high intensity rating (Cat 5 or strong Cat 4) for many days on end. I remember seeing her "donut" eye open up. It was striking indeed, and a reminder of the kind of thing which you occasionally see in the Pacific Basin. Her "donut" eye was the first that I could remember seeing in the Atlantic Basin (since the advent of modern sat tech). Perhaps Carla, or Betsy had something of the sort, I don't know. But anyway, when Katrina opened with that "donut" eye, I knew that a Cat 5 rating could not be far behind. It reminded me of Isabel. I was really impressed by Isabel. As she moved further north she weakened some (as expected). But I was impressed with this large rotating Cat 2 "blob" which landed along the Outer Banks and then moved up along the Va. Coast, covering large swaths of land with 100 mph winds, and bringing very high tides up into the Maryland Coastal areas.
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#15 Postby jrod » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:25 pm

Isabel cut two inlets in the Outer Banks, NC one was something like 100ft wide, incredible considering it was a cat 2 at landfall. As for the 'donut eye', I believe Georges '99 had one when it was east of the islands.
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Re: Isabel

#16 Postby philnyc » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:46 pm

Berwick Bay wrote:Wanted to add this before the topic falls off the board. It seems to me that Isabel was a precursor to all of the Cat 5 Storms which we saw in '05. Isabel was in '03 (I think), and she was unique in that she held such a high intensity rating (Cat 5 or strong Cat 4) for many days on end. I remember seeing her "donut" eye open up. It was striking indeed, and a reminder of the kind of thing which you occasionally see in the Pacific Basin. Her "donut" eye was the first that I could remember seeing in the Atlantic Basin (since the advent of modern sat tech). Perhaps Carla, or Betsy had something of the sort, I don't know. But anyway, when Katrina opened with that "donut" eye, I knew that a Cat 5 rating could not be far behind. It reminded me of Isabel. I was really impressed by Isabel. As she moved further north she weakened some (as expected). But I was impressed with this large rotating Cat 2 "blob" which landed along the Outer Banks and then moved up along the Va. Coast, covering large swaths of land with 100 mph winds, and bringing very high tides up into the Maryland Coastal areas.


Yeah, you should check out a write-up I did on her in last year. I think you'd enjoy it:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/p/z/pzl112/Meteo%20241/PROJECT_3%20HURRICANE%20ISABEL%202003.htm

What exactly do you mean by "donut" eye? Also, someone told me once that the eye was refered to as "annular". Does anyone have reference material on that?
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Re: Isabel

#17 Postby Gary335 » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:38 pm

Still looking for coverage of it (particularly TWC coverage) if anyone has any!
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Re: Isabel

#18 Postby wjs3 » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:10 pm

Phil:

In a nutshell, Annular hurricanes are axisymmetric (round) and have a relatively large eye--hence the donut comment. The eye is typically surrounded by a ring (annulus) of convection, with no convection beyond that. They tend to hold their intensity for longer than non annular hurricanes.

Here's an excellent paper on them:

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~kossin/articl ... icanes.pdf

...this should have been covered (even a paragraph would have been nice) in our classes.

WJS3

P.S. Just for fun, and just for you...here's a BAMS article on mesovortices in Isabel form the same folder:

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~kossin/articl ... KosSch.pdf
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Re: Isabel

#19 Postby philnyc » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:18 pm

wjs3 wrote:Phil:

In a nutshell, Annular hurricanes are axisymmetric (round) and have a relatively large eye--hence the donut comment. The eye is typically surrounded by a ring (annulus) of convection, with no convection beyond that. They tend to hold their intensity for longer than non annular hurricanes.
Here's an excellent paper on them:

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~kossin/articl ... icanes.pdf

...this should have been covered (even a paragraph would have been nice) in our classes.

WJS3
P.S. Just for fun, and just for you...here's a BAMS article on mesovortices in Isabel form the same folder:

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~kossin/articl ... KosSch.pdf


Wow! Christmas has come early! Many thanks Winn.
P.S. I emailed you.
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Re: Isabel

#20 Postby wjs3 » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:23 pm

I just replied.

Talk to you soon.

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