Iran seizes U.K. troops=The 15 sailors are back home

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#161 Postby Yarrah » Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:09 am

New footage of one the the soldiers shows them again making apologies for entering Iranian territorial waters. Does Ahmadinejad really think we're stupid enough to believe that and not see that they're being forced to say this?
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#162 Postby Nimbus » Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:32 am

I had really hoped this situation would be resolved quickly like the 2004 incident.
The AP news version of this story at least had a little positive news.

"An Iranian news agency reported earlier in the day that Iran's Foreign Ministry sent a message to the British embassy in Tehran calling for a guarantee by London to avoid violating Iranian territorial waters in the future.

Until now, Iran has said the matter could only be resolved if Britain admitted its sailors were trespassing."

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/03/a ... an_070330/

The Iranians have not drawn their disputed borders so such a guarantee would only be face saving at this time.

I still think a quick diplomatic solution such as this would be better than watching a mock trial for the sailors in Iran. The UN can't act decisively until Russia votes with the majority.
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#163 Postby James » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:11 am

A third "letter" has been released now. You wouldn't have thought it could have been any more unsubtle than the last one, but there we go.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6508039.stm
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#164 Postby feederband » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:16 am

I think its time for a Naval blockade untill they are released...
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#165 Postby kevin » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:35 am

feederband wrote:I think its time for a Naval blockade untill they are released...


Iran can close the Straits of Hormuz. Just a thing to keep in mind.
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#166 Postby gtalum » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:38 am

feederband wrote:I think its time for a Naval blockade untill they are released...


Oh yeah that's smart. Let's shut off a large portion of our oil supply.
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#167 Postby feederband » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:43 am

kevin wrote:
feederband wrote:I think its time for a Naval blockade untill they are released...


Iran can close the Straits of Hormuz. Just a thing to keep in mind.



They have tried that before...Do you think we would just let them?
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#168 Postby feederband » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:44 am

gtalum wrote:
feederband wrote:I think its time for a Naval blockade untill they are released...


Oh yeah that's smart. Let's shut off a large portion of our oil supply.


We don't get oil from them...
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#169 Postby gtalum » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:25 pm

feederband wrote:We don't get oil from them...


While we may not buy oil directly from Iran, shutting off their exports would put a crimp in the world supply, driving prices up for everyone and creating worldwide shortages. Oil is a pure commodity. It doesn't matter where you get it from, the price and demand is global.
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#170 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:27 pm

we could drop their surface fleet very quickly if they closed off the Straits

Regan did in in 1988 and Bush can do it again if need be
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#171 Postby gtalum » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:29 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:we could drop their surface fleet very quickly if they closed off the Straits

Regan did in in 1988 and Bush can do it again if need be


And meanwhile, our economy will tank in the few weeks it takes to find and disarm the thousands of mines they lay in the strait. Great idea. :roll:
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#172 Postby feederband » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:38 pm

gtalum wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:we could drop their surface fleet very quickly if they closed off the Straits

Regan did in in 1988 and Bush can do it again if need be


And meanwhile, our economy will tank in the few weeks it takes to find and disarm the thousands of mines they lay in the strait. Great idea. :roll:


A confrontation with Iran is going to happen sooner than later anyways ...Lets just get it over with...I'm fixing to buy a gallon of gas and torch my 2 cars anyways..I'll buy a couple of real nice electric scooters with the insurance money...

The point is right now its just a war of words and oil is skyrocketing..

I wake up everyday and say the world is ending...Maybe its tomorrow....
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#173 Postby Scorpion » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:35 pm

Any confrontation with Iran is not required. It will only make things worse.
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#174 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:12 pm

gtalum wrote:
feederband wrote:We don't get oil from them...


While we may not buy oil directly from Iran, shutting off their exports would put a crimp in the world supply, driving prices up for everyone and creating worldwide shortages. Oil is a pure commodity. It doesn't matter where you get it from, the price and demand is global.


Maybe so, but how do you think those people view us? Britain did not do anything to stop them from taking those soldiers. They KNOW we have gone soft.
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#175 Postby Yarrah » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:25 pm

^^ A lot of Iranians view the US in a positive manner. But what could the UK have done to stop them from taking their soldiers?
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#176 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:46 pm

Yarrah wrote:^^ A lot of Iranians view the US in a positive manner. But what could the UK have done to stop them from taking their soldiers?


I dunno, a shot across the bow? They were told not to fire upon them. Imagine that! :roll:
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#177 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:43 pm

they could have dropped the Iranian ships and would have been more than justified to do so

what are we coming to when attacking one of our allied ships (or one of our own with the UUS Cole) is considered to be OK and not an act of war?
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#178 Postby lurkey » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:41 am

Iranian official: Sailors may be tried . . ." . . violating international law. . " :roll:
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#179 Postby Stephanie » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:45 am

Wonderful...
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#180 Postby angelwing » Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:46 am

Ah geez, and what's the penalty when they're found guilty?
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