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#21 Postby angelwing » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:59 pm

Ok, Philly is putting a ban in also. My hubby used to smoke 3 packs a day and quit on 7/23/05, if you remember is when he went into the hospital, and hasn't had one since. I will not smoke around him nor will I smoke in the apartment, I go outside and I smoke less than half a pack a day, however now my second job will start a new rule, if you smoke you will not be hired and if you already are a smoker, you must quit, which I will have to do. They are a private institution (cancer hospital)so I will have to quit. From what I understand, next week they will offer acupuncture or hypnosis to quit.

I need to quit, but geez give it a break, it's getting as bad as getting flu shots, sigh
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#22 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:37 pm

P.K. wrote:Smokers infringe on my rights for a clean atmosphere. :wink: I'm happy that sporting events are also starting to ban it. I go to a football match to watch football and not to not be able to breathe!


Who says you can take away my rights so that you can have yours? A bit of a double standard, dont you think? :wink:

You can't breathe outdoors at a football game? What about the diesel trucks you are behind filling up your car with fumes? Is that any different? What about oil smoke that is coming from bad engines but the people drive them anyway? I mean, the list could go on and on!
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#23 Postby P.K. » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:51 pm

We all know smoking kills, sometimes in places like that it is impossible to escape it. I'm glad they've banned it at the club I support from next season. No double standards at all, I'm not standing/sitting there killing people as well.

Trust me you won't find anyone more anti smoking than me!

(Oh and I don't actually own a car, I use public transport as much as possible :wink: )
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#24 Postby AussieMark » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:54 pm

what about people who work in that environment who are exposed to it every day and the health problems that go with it just for doing their job.

I don't get how people try and sue the cigarette companies. Its like people learn to take responsibility for your actions.
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#25 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:58 pm

P.K. wrote:We all know smoking kills, sometimes in places like that it is impossible to escape it. I'm glad they've banned it at the club I support from next season. No double standards at all, I'm not standing/sitting there killing people as well.

Trust me you won't find anyone more anti smoking than me!

(Oh and I don't actually own a car, I use public transport as much as possible :wink: )



You dodged the answer, why is it you can take away a smokers rights to satisfy your rights? It is not up to you to decide. If that person wants to smoke, so be it.

We all know weather kills, can we stop weather from happening? nope.
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#26 Postby CajunMama » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:00 pm

P.K. wrote:(Oh and I don't actually own a car, I use public transport as much as possible :wink: )


*waves the bus fumes away from her nose & lungs.* *cough*cough* :lol:
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#27 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:01 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:Linda,

There have been studies, to the best of my knowledge, that smoking can cause illness in children (especially if they have athsma).

I see no problem banning smoking around children (such as in a car with children). However, this no smoking in a bar or other places intended for CONSENTING ADULTS is going way too far. I wonder if that is unconstitutional



You are right, then they turned around and said it didn't. I dunno.
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#28 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:01 pm

CajunMama wrote:
P.K. wrote:(Oh and I don't actually own a car, I use public transport as much as possible :wink: )


*waves the bus fumes away from her nose & lungs.* *cough*cough* :lol:


You beat me to it. :lol:

Double standards, now there is something that should be banned.
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#29 Postby Opal storm » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:10 pm

I don't care about people smoking outside.I just hate it when people smoke inside,the smoke has nowhere to escape and accumulates in the air.Like I said before people with asthma or other breathing difficulties can't enjoy a meal at a resturant or a game at a bowling alley without choking.
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#30 Postby P.K. » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:10 pm

Anywhere within bus range is easy to cycle and I'll do that instead of using a bus. Maybe I should have said if its further than that then I'll use the train. People have to travel, people do not have to smoke. :wink:
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#31 Postby AussieMark » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:16 pm

how many cars does a fully loaded bus keep off the road?

thus reduced exhaust fumes going into atmosphere
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#32 Postby Yarrah » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:18 pm

P.K. wrote:Anywhere within bus range is easy to cycle and I'll do that instead of using a bus.

Hey, someone who uses a bycicle and trains to get around . *applauds*
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#33 Postby Johno8080 » Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:26 pm

Not allowed to smoke anywhere here where food or drinks are provided! no smoking in clubs or anything........i think its all a good idea!

Although the clubs have heaps of people outside as the night gets on.....all the smokers! i dont think its an issue but to me i would have thought there would be alot more fights
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#34 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:41 pm

Well if those clubs have the people OUTSIDE, that means the club is not making money. Therefore, the club will have to close. Our government, :roll:
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#35 Postby swimaster20 » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:26 pm

I think people should be able to smoke in their homes, their cars, their businesses (if self-employed),etc. However, when it comes to public places such as hotels, restaurants, etc., I think smoking should be banned b/c there are many people who have asthma, are allergic to cigarette smoke, etc. I know whenever I start to smell cigarette smoke, I get a really bad headache. Oh well, it's just my opinion, and I don't mean for anyone to get offended. :)

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#36 Postby senorpepr » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:39 pm

Well, while I personally don't agree that the government should mandate an all-out "smoking ban," I do agree with a mandate for having special designated areas for smoking only... completely separated from the rest of the establishment.

Lindaloo wrote:Well if those clubs have the people OUTSIDE, that means the club is not making money. Therefore, the club will have to close. Our government, :roll:


For what it's worth, Omaha has recently enforced a smoking ban for public establishments that serve food. Clubs that don't serve food are not affected, but bars (that serve food) and restaurants cannot allow smoking. Since the ban has gone into effect, sales have actually increased. A lot of bar owners noted that they had an increase in patronage from non-smokers happy that they could go out without smelling like smoke afterwards.
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#37 Postby Regit » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:47 pm

It should also be noted that smoker's don't have a right to smoke in someone else's proximity. The jury is completely in when it comes to secondhand smoke. It does affect lung health. It's been known for years that inhaling ANY kind of smoke is harmful.

Your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose.

That being said, I still think it should be up to the establishments. Restaurants that allow smoking have slower business. Although, as senorpepr said, smoking bans have, almost without exception, helped local economies.
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#38 Postby MGC » Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:47 pm

If most smokers were not so inconsiderate of non-smokers none of this would have ever happened. So don't blame non-smokers. Us non smokers need clean air and the smoke stinks.....MGC
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#39 Postby Ixolib » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:00 pm

Well, thank goodness S2K has not banned smoking!!! :lol:
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p.s. - and now New York, Chicago, and soon Miami have decided to ban all trans fats from all restaurants in their respective cities. So many fries are going to suffer from that one!!
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#40 Postby Opal storm » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:39 pm

MGC wrote:If most smokers were not so inconsiderate of non-smokers none of this would have ever happened. So don't blame non-smokers. Us non smokers need clean air and the smoke stinks.....MGC
:uarrow: Thank you!
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