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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#121 Postby JPmia » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:00 am

cycloneye wrote:For our friends in the islands,we have to start preparations from tommorow,as it seems this system will not evade us.


Have to agree.. hard to see a storm at that low latitude not impacting the islands in some fashion.
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#122 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:03 am

Watching closely here in SE North Carolina for 91L...Looks to be the first hurricane, and even major hurricane, of the season.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#123 Postby ronjon » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:07 am

0z ECM ensemble model shows mid-level ridging quickly building back in after 144 hrs.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#124 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:10 am

theweatherwatch wrote:
AHS2011 wrote:What are the chances that this system makes landfall along the Eastern Seaboard?


To early to tell at this point. First area to be concerned about is the Islands. After that there will be time to worry about a possible US landfall where ever that may be. Appears at this point though that the Bermuda High will shift east allowing 91L to recurve out to sea with out making a Main land US landfall. We shall see though. Still plenty of time for us to track 91L!


If it shifts too much, could it turn back west towards Florida and the Gulf though?
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#125 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:11 am

With those kind of steering currents, looks to be a Gulf storm.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#126 Postby jdray » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:12 am

The timing of that ridge building back in should be interesting for quite a few folks on the east coast. Probably still recurve, but ridges are fun to watch.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#127 Postby theweatherwatch » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:14 am

CrazyC83 wrote:
theweatherwatch wrote:
AHS2011 wrote:What are the chances that this system makes landfall along the Eastern Seaboard?


To early to tell at this point. First area to be concerned about is the Islands. After that there will be time to worry about a possible US landfall where ever that may be. Appears at this point though that the Bermuda High will shift east allowing 91L to recurve out to sea with out making a Main land US landfall. We shall see though. Still plenty of time for us to track 91L!


If it shifts too much, could it turn back west towards Florida and the Gulf though?


If it doesn't shift east as much as forecast by the models then it could hit the US. This early out there are so many what ifs that could play out over the coming weeks. At this point it's best to just focus on the Islands which will be affected first of all. Still a long ways away from any potential US landfall.

EDIT: Or if the High builds back in quickly like I just saw that the models are forecasting from the 91L Discussion thread. I hadn't checked the longer range models.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#128 Postby ddad040 » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:26 am


If I'm correct. Would that not put a cat 2 or so in the Hebert Box? Just an observation.
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#129 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:29 am

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Loop: http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 231145.GIF

In my opinion, looks like there's a LLC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#130 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:32 am

Still some easterly shear :uarrow:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#131 Postby theweatherwatch » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:34 am

ddad040 wrote:

If I'm correct. Would that not put a cat 2 or so in the Herbert Box? Just an observation.


Some of the models have a cat 3 at that point... Right there however I am not sure if that would be a cat 2 or 3.
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#132 Postby Gustywind » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:37 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#133 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:45 am

12z Surface Analysis by TAFB:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#134 Postby DisasterMagnet » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:46 am

I'm a lurker for the most part, but from the season's start, it felt like 1995 to me. That year was fishy, but I don't think we'll see as many recurve as last year.

With the models trending towards a VI/PR hit, it brings back memories of Luis and Marilyn. The islands were so focused on Luis that Marilyn was a big suprise. 91L will start getting a lot of attention, I'm sure.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#135 Postby Sanibel » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:49 am

Another dry system. The season is starting to force development in the hurricane belt.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#136 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:50 am

jdray wrote:The timing of that ridge building back in should be interesting for quite a few folks on the east coast. Probably still recurve, but ridges are fun to watch.



Yea, I still think there is a slight chance that this won't recurve, if the timing is perfect and the high just happens to build it just in time to allow it to not to recurve. But as Derek Ortt the Meteorologist has said before, only a small percentage of storms forming this far out in the Atlantic, don't recurve. Recurve is the Norm, but sometimes the
timing is such where recurve doesn't happen. I think that's why I always default to recurve unless conditions
are telling me otherwise.
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#137 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:55 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#138 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:56 am

Sanibel wrote:Another dry system. The season is starting to force development in the hurricane belt.


This one has a big moisture envelope.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#139 Postby SFLcane » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:56 am

Couple of trofs in time will take a swip at this as it approaches the SE . Looks like a serious threat to the NE islands.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#140 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:57 am

perk wrote:
HURRICANELONNY wrote:I would guess that 91l will be either out to sea or a Carolina threat. East coast trough setting up. From what I remember reading. You need a trough to evacuate the tropics to sort of like a restart. I think I read something like that on JB site when he was with Accuweather. :eek:


Way too early to make that call, lets give it 4 or 5 days and i think we will have a much better handle on 91L.


Exactly, besides the other usual long range issues involving steering patterns, there isn't even a well defined centre for the models to latch onto yet. Right now, it is just a wait and see type situation.
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