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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6061 Postby jhpigott » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:28 pm

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Evil Jeremy wrote:GFDL joins the 12z west train, taking Matthew inland Florida what appears to be around the Broward/Palm Beach border, before exiting back into the Atlantic just south of Jacksonville.


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at 926mb, 120knts . . . yuck

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... s=0&ypos=0
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6062 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:31 pm

jhpigott wrote:
lando wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:GFDL joins the 12z west train, taking Matthew inland Florida what appears to be around the Broward/Palm Beach border, before exiting back into the Atlantic just south of Jacksonville.


pic?


at 926mb, 120knts . . . yuck

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... s=0&ypos=0


I believe that's the 1st time GFDL came ashore in FL?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6063 Postby Bocadude85 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:32 pm

So we have the 12z UKMET NAVGEM & GFDL showing a Florida landfall.. I think that is the first time we have had three models going with a Florida landfall correct?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6064 Postby ronjon » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:32 pm

Dang...GFDL slams Ft Laud at 2 am Friday morning..runs over north side of Lake O, proceeds north through Orlando, and out to sea near JAX - absolutely horrible path.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6065 Postby stormreader » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:34 pm

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lando wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:GFDL joins the 12z west train, taking Matthew inland Florida what appears to be around the Broward/Palm Beach border, before exiting back into the Atlantic just south of Jacksonville.


pic?


Run isn't posted on Trop Tidbits yet. But track is on SWFWMD site:

http://www.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal/xweb%20weather/hurricane%20model%20plots

Apparently we are not finished with the west shifts. As models fine-tune with slightly further west, it means a landfall, yes, but also a landfall further down the penninsula, impacting more of the penninsula. You can't even rule out a final point down at the very tip of the penninsula near the keys, before the strong N turn. That's been my thinking for about a week, and models may be closing in on that final solution.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6066 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:34 pm

Looking at that graphic above, what a NIGHTMARE for Emergency Management all up and down the East Coast. Don't envy them at all. A system just carving out the coastline and knowing that a wobble left or right for all of these states, could bring catastrophic conditions, or merely tropical storm force winds. How do you sound the alarm bell, and Stress the need to be prepared, knowing if the storm misses your area, you will be called out for Overhyping by the public?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6067 Postby Soonercane » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:34 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:So we have the 12z UKMET NAVGEM & GFDL showing a Florida landfall.. I think that is the first time we have had three models going with a Florida landfall correct?


Those models are all far inferior to the GFS and the EC when it comes to track though which keep it pretty well offshore.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6068 Postby WPBWeather » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:36 pm

Soonercane wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:So we have the 12z UKMET NAVGEM & GFDL showing a Florida landfall.. I think that is the first time we have had three models going with a Florida landfall correct?


Those models are all far inferior to the GFS and the EC when it comes to track though which keep it pretty well offshore.


Not this year.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6069 Postby Alyono » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:38 pm

Soonercane wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:So we have the 12z UKMET NAVGEM & GFDL showing a Florida landfall.. I think that is the first time we have had three models going with a Florida landfall correct?


Those models are all far inferior to the GFS and the EC when it comes to track though which keep it pretty well offshore.


not necessarily inferior to EC this year. EC has been downright BRUTAL. It's the model configuration as has been documented many times here
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6070 Postby Bocadude85 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:38 pm

Soonercane wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:So we have the 12z UKMET NAVGEM & GFDL showing a Florida landfall.. I think that is the first time we have had three models going with a Florida landfall correct?


Those models are all far inferior to the GFS and the EC when it comes to track though which keep it pretty well offshore.


Actually the UKMET is a very good model. The NHC speaks of the UKMET on a regular basis in their forecast discussions.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6071 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:39 pm

Soonercane wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:So we have the 12z UKMET NAVGEM & GFDL showing a Florida landfall.. I think that is the first time we have had three models going with a Florida landfall correct?


Those models are all far inferior to the GFS and the EC when it comes to track though which keep it pretty well offshore.

Well, while this MAY be correct, the west trend is still there.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6072 Postby ronjon » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:40 pm

I think the concern is when you have the GFS ensembles shift west and the GFDL model shift west - are we starting to see another trend in the models. Obviously if the 12z ECM shows a landfall, then we are in big trouble here in Florida.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6073 Postby Blown Away » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:40 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
Soonercane wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:So we have the 12z UKMET NAVGEM & GFDL showing a Florida landfall.. I think that is the first time we have had three models going with a Florida landfall correct?


Those models are all far inferior to the GFS and the EC when it comes to track though which keep it pretty well offshore.

Well, while this MAY be correct, the west trend is still there.


We shall see very soon what KING EURO says... Hopefully a new trend setter...
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6074 Postby lando » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:41 pm

Soonercane wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:So we have the 12z UKMET NAVGEM & GFDL showing a Florida landfall.. I think that is the first time we have had three models going with a Florida landfall correct?


Those models are all far inferior to the GFS and the EC when it comes to track though which keep it pretty well offshore.


but numerous GEFS models showed this during past run???
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6075 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:42 pm

Models are coming into better agreement now....won't be a big change maybe just maybe little bit more west but not to much
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6076 Postby caneseddy » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:45 pm

HWRF takes it over Abaco heading NW, misses Florida with landfall on the Outer Banks
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6077 Postby TheHook210 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:47 pm

Feeling really nervous waiting on the Euro track. We need an east trend damn it.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6078 Postby tolakram » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:48 pm

One of the more anticipated model runs in the last few years and it's late to show up. :x
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6079 Postby Raebie » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:49 pm

I understand that means it's going to go east. 8-)
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Models

#6080 Postby Portastorm » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:50 pm

Yeah, about those comments hammering on the Euro:

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