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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1801 Postby bamajammer4eva » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:04 pm

108 hr is weaker and a bit SW of both the 12z and 18z
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1802 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:04 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
Miami Storm Tracker wrote:I would go with a gradual west to WNW climb but an abrupt sudden NW turn can't see it.

I agree. Nothing against the GFS but I just cannot see this storm immediately turning NW into a ridge that quickly.

Not nw in any way but north of due west to me
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1803 Postby RL3AO » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:04 pm

GFS seems to be nudging south in the day 3 to 5 range each run. It's really small (maybe 20 to 30 miles a run), but I'm wondering if it will eventually get south enough in the short term that it ends significantly further west. Something like a bifurcation point.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1804 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:05 pm

Definitely more ridge and definitely further South. I hate to say this but it appears that in the midterm the GFS is aligning more with the Euro. No one in the islands wants to see that.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1805 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:06 pm

Heading NW/WNW
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1806 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:06 pm

RL3AO wrote:GFS seems to be nudging south in the day 3 to 5 range each run. It's really small (maybe 20 to 30 miles a run), but I'm wondering if it will eventually get south enough in the short term that it ends significantly further west. Something like a bifurcation point.


I was just thinking this, every new run the GFS ends up a bit farther south. Seems to be slowly coming into line with the Euro.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1807 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:07 pm

Seems to be Wnw at 120hrs and this will probably end up north of the islands but have Ts conditions
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1808 Postby sma10 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:07 pm

RL3AO wrote:GFS seems to be nudging south in the day 3 to 5 range each run. It's really small (maybe 20 to 30 miles a run), but I'm wondering if it will eventually get south enough in the short term that it ends significantly further west. Something like a bifurcation point.


And more than that there seems to be a gentler, flatter look to the wnw motion this time. May end up further west than we think this run.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1809 Postby pcolaman » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:07 pm

RL3AO wrote:GFS seems to be nudging south in the day 3 to 5 range each run. It's really small (maybe 20 to 30 miles a run), but I'm wondering if it will eventually get south enough in the short term that it ends significantly further west. Something like a bifurcation point.



Was thinking the same thing. As time goes,looks to be coming into agreement with the euro to some degree. Imho
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1810 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:07 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
Miami Storm Tracker wrote:I would go with a gradual west to WNW climb but an abrupt sudden NW turn can't see it.

I agree. Nothing against the GFS but I just cannot see this storm immediately turning NW into a ridge that quickly.


Especially a ridge that strong as well.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1811 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:07 pm

RL3AO wrote:GFS seems to be nudging south in the day 3 to 5 range each run. It's really small (maybe 20 to 30 miles a run), but I'm wondering if it will eventually get south enough in the short term that it ends significantly further west. Something like a bifurcation point.


I have noticed this as well... Each run makes a slight adjustment. At some point it could tip the scales down the road.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1812 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:08 pm

Ridging a bit stronger. But this adds up every run...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1813 Postby RL3AO » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:08 pm

sma10 wrote:
RL3AO wrote:GFS seems to be nudging south in the day 3 to 5 range each run. It's really small (maybe 20 to 30 miles a run), but I'm wondering if it will eventually get south enough in the short term that it ends significantly further west. Something like a bifurcation point.


And more than that there seems to be a gentler, flatter look to the wnw motion this time. May end up further west than we think this run.


Just wondering if one of these 20 mile shifts south at day 4 will turn into a 500 mile shift at day 10.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1814 Postby txwatcher91 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:08 pm

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RL3AO wrote:GFS seems to be nudging south in the day 3 to 5 range each run. It's really small (maybe 20 to 30 miles a run), but I'm wondering if it will eventually get south enough in the short term that it ends significantly further west. Something like a bifurcation point.


I was just thinking this, every new run the GFS ends up a bit farther south. Seems to be slowly coming into line with the Euro.


The GFS is ticking south and Euro is starting to tick north. It seems to be fairly common for them to do that on storms this year with reality being much closer to the Euro solution. The GFS can’t even get the 24 hour tracks of Irma correct :roll:
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1815 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:08 pm

RL3AO wrote:
sma10 wrote:
RL3AO wrote:GFS seems to be nudging south in the day 3 to 5 range each run. It's really small (maybe 20 to 30 miles a run), but I'm wondering if it will eventually get south enough in the short term that it ends significantly further west. Something like a bifurcation point.


And more than that there seems to be a gentler, flatter look to the wnw motion this time. May end up further west than we think this run.


Just wondering if one of these 20 mile shifts south at day 4 will turn into a 500 mile shift at day 10.

I was thinking the same thing. If these graceful shifts continue run to run then it will turn into a HUGE change.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1816 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:10 pm

About 2 degrees south.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1817 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:12 pm

Makes a NW jump into the ridge........ This is what I'm worried about
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1818 Postby SouthFLTropics » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:12 pm

138 hours...the fork in the road so to speak. Does Irma head NW or more WNW? And does the East Coast trough cutoff?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1819 Postby sma10 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:13 pm

Not sure how it pans out in the long haul, but i have the 144hr about 100miles sw of previous run. Can anyone with better skills than i confirm this?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#1820 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:14 pm

On the Euro's last run it ended up near Key west, I think that was a bit to far south and west. Not saying it can't make the eastern part of the gulf. But not coming up from the south. My point being is look for the Euro to come a bit north and the GFS to come a bit more south, Look out S. FLA and then maybe the western part of FLA and the eastern gulf.
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