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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2061 Postby Steve » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:48 am

robbielyn wrote:
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WeatherEmperor wrote:...or maybe the NAO doesnt have as much effect on trough-ridge setups as we thought...


That would be difficult since it's essentially a measurement of pressure differnce at mean sea level between Azores High and Icelandic (also known as sub-polar) Low up that way.

For further verification, we'd have to look out to the WPAC for 7-10 day teleconnections which I haven't done yet but am about to do.

1) TS MAWAR moves NW into China coming up South of Taiwan with anticipated landfall just before 12Z on Sunday. Argues for ridging along the SE US East Coast 10th through 13th, possibly oriented with a NW-SE western periphery

2) Typhoon Sanvu recurves east of Japan on a NNE heading. This argues for troughing just off the US East Coast a bit farther north in the same time frame with probably a subtropical ridge to it's South and East.

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Mixed signals for next week from the WPAC.

so based off this info, what's ur wild guess as to landfall if any?


Haha. I have no idea. I think the NE Islands have a bit to worry about. Last night I felt like the Bahamian Kingdom has the most to worry about. Bastardi's updated track today shows a Cat 5 just off the NE Tip of Puerto Rico, so the US has major impacts there. Based more or less of the ECMWF, I figured it would go into S FL from the SE or S. But after it swung completely in the other direction, if there's going to be landfall, maybe between North Carolina and Newfoundland? I'd give this about 2% credence from 10 days out. The upper pattern north of 50W has been fluid all season with systems moving west to east across Canada rather than settling into a specific pattern east of 80W.

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2062 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:50 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2063 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:50 am

12z GFS... 72 hrs... Seems to be moving W now... @40 miles farther W than 06Z...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2064 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:51 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2065 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:54 am

12z GFS... 84 hrs... Still @due W now... @55 miles farther W than 06Z and seems to be picking up forward speed...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2066 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:55 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2067 Postby BucMan2 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:55 am

Great Point by Blown Away- Although the models may show a modest 30- to 50 mile difference from the previous model that won't make
anyone in the US nervous at this time, it could be the difference between one of the Islands getting slammed or not, so it is very important!!
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#2068 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:56 am

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#2069 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:59 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2070 Postby txwatcher91 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:59 am

So far the GFS seems a little bit faster and maybe a little more to the SW compared with the 06z run. I'm curious to see what it does with the ridging and how quickly it turns it WNW/NW.

EDIT - By hour 102 it is a good deal further west/south than the 06z run.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2071 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:00 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2072 Postby SouthFLTropics » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:00 am

This is the farthest south and west we've seen a recent GFS run.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2073 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:01 am

12z GFS... 102 hrs... Moving just N of W @280... @ 50 miles farther WSW than 06Z...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2074 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:01 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2075 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:02 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2076 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:03 am

12z GFS @65 miles NE of the 00z Euro at this point...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2077 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:04 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2078 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:04 am

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:Trend
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Ridge is stronger compared to 06z
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2079 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:05 am

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#2080 Postby tgenius » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:05 am

Yet with a stronger ridge appears to be moving more poleward when it should be the opposite right?
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