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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7421 Postby WeatherHoon » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:50 pm

For those asking where it's going or getting hung up on each model run, you're better off just referring to NHC's cone.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7422 Postby Kohlecane » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:50 pm

Sanibel wrote:Looks like the consensus slips slightly east...

Sure from NW Cuba to NC some great consistency lol
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7423 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:50 pm

tolakram wrote:Where it ends up is actually not that much different, it's the path it takes to get there.

Euro plot, also Cuba and then north, but west side of Florida.
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Really hard to buy the 90 degree track, but that most reliable model say yes... I hope it doesn't end up a smooth blend of Euro/GFS...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7424 Postby MatthewsRevenge » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:53 pm

I think UK and GFS is outdoing that trough. We're gonna have to wait for Euro in the morning (and GFS before midnight).
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7425 Postby Sanibel » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:57 pm

Sorry, I'm a little frazzled from being in the gun barrel sights of this...I look now and it was a UK Model consensus and not spaghetti like I thought... Mod can zap the post...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7426 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:57 pm

18Z NAVGEM continues east of Florida:

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7427 Postby adam0983 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:59 pm

Hurricane Irma may pull a hurricane Matthew. Why did the gfs model go so Far East now. People in south Florida are panicking. everyone needs to relax take a deep breathe and wait for a hurricane watch and then believe the models. Just an opinion not a forecast.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7428 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:00 pm

So we have the GFS, UKMET, and NAVGEM east of Florida with the Euro, HWRF, and CMC west with the ECMWF over west Florida. There is at least a chance this goes east of Florida.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7429 Postby MatthewsRevenge » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:01 pm

gatorcane wrote:18Z NAVGEM continues east of Florida:

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That map looks like Florida is getting eaten by Irma. :eek: :lol:
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7430 Postby CourierPR » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:01 pm

gatorcane wrote:So we have the GFS, UKMET, and NAVGEM east of Florida with the Euro, HWRF, and CMC west with the ECMWF over west Florida. There is at least a chance this goes east of Florida.


Will the NHC take the middle ground?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7431 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:02 pm

adam0983 wrote:Hurricane Irma may pull a hurricane Matthew. Why did the gfs model go so Far East now. People in south Florida are panicking. everyone needs to relax take a deep breathe and wait for a hurricane watch and then believe the models. Just an opinion not a forecast.


The thing is, not all of the computer models take it east. Most Meteorologists and the NHC don't think it will go to the east of Florida. It's possible it might but it's too much of a risk at this point now to tell them not to start preparing even if it it doesn't.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7432 Postby bevgo » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:03 pm

Hi. This is Codygo. Bevgo grandson. I'm the one doing a science fair project on hurricanes. Can you show me how to find the spaghetti .models. Bevgo, my Nene is sleeping.

Thank you.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7433 Postby utweather » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:04 pm

CourierPR wrote:
Sanibel wrote:Looks like the consensus slips slightly east...


There doesn't appear to be any model consensus at this point.


Isn't the TVCN(correct initials?) model the consensus and the NHC has stayed kinda close to that one. So maybe a eastward shift on subsequent updates???
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7434 Postby Nimbus » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:04 pm

The powers that be expect the NHC staff to keep the official track on the left side of guidance.
Other than the Euro Disney run (that probably returns south in the Pacific somewhere) are there any other credible model runs further west than Florida?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7435 Postby Ken711 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:06 pm

CourierPR wrote:
gatorcane wrote:So we have the GFS, UKMET, and NAVGEM east of Florida with the Euro, HWRF, and CMC west with the ECMWF over west Florida. There is at least a chance this goes east of Florida.


Will the NHC take the middle ground?


Middle ground sounds reasonable, until the Euro moves east of Florida, then it would seem they are honing on consensus.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7436 Postby bevgo » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:06 pm

Nene. Bevgo said to tell you the XTRAP rocks. Rofl
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7437 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:07 pm

18z HWRF trending N than 12z...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7438 Postby Kohlecane » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:07 pm

IMO. didnt UK do really well with Matthew last year?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7439 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:08 pm

Is it possible more data has been put into models which is causing the north shift? Let's see where the HWRF ends up but if it shifts east, that would really just leave the ECMWF to the west along with the CMC
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Models

#7440 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:09 pm

Is there a chance the models are wrong, and instead of swinging back into the SE coastline it gets picked up by the trough?
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