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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#81 Postby IcyTundra » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:24 am

HWRF develops 95L late in the run well south of Haiti and the DR. The Euro still shows development and is a little further south compared to the 12Z run passing just to the south of PR.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#82 Postby Kohlecane » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:51 am

It's all good GFS Takes this through as an open wave after PR on the 06z but at 360h that tail end of the trough seems promising :D , I think after 95L gets past 50W we might have some more consensus.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#83 Postby Spacecoast » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:25 am

0z ECMF ensembles very tightly clustered through 72-96 hrs
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0z ECMF Density - Seems convinced of genesis
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#84 Postby Kohlecane » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:27 am

Spacecoast wrote:0z ECMF ensembles very tightly clustered through 72-96 hrs
[url]https://i.ibb.co/qj0wQS9/ecmdn.jpg [/url]


0z ECMF Density - Seems convinced of genesis
[url]https://i.ibb.co/Kwv7HWC/ecmdm.jpg [/url]

interesting, suggestive of strong ridging over the ATL
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#85 Postby SoupBone » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:43 am

Does the GFS finally do something with it on August 21st? Looks like it's out there off the east coast.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#86 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:56 am

SoupBone wrote:Does the GFS finally do something with it on August 21st? Looks like it's out there off the east coast.


Yes. That is 95L very strong.

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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#87 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:10 pm

12Z weaker through 72 hours.

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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#88 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:15 pm

Models have been horrible, including the Euro with 95L.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#89 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:26 pm

TUTT awaits 95l once it gets further west by the Lesser Antilles - that is some serious shear if the GFS is correct:

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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#90 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:30 pm

gatorcane wrote:TUTT awaits 95l once it gets further west by the Lesser Antilles - that is some serious shear if the GFS is correct:

https://i.postimg.cc/hPDDPyKs/gfs-shear-watl-fh54-144.gif

So Fred decides to loop around the Panhandle?

Okay.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#91 Postby aspen » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:37 pm

NDG wrote:Models have been horrible, including the Euro with 95L.

The Euro has apparently done the best with 95L so far, which is a sentence I never thought I would say after 2020. It correctly predicted the more active and dominant northern lobe that we’ve seen today.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#92 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:43 pm

The steering is there for a classic South Florida strike on the 12Z Euro but it is showing unfavorable conditions in this run thankfully:

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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#93 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:48 pm

gatorcane wrote:The steering is there for a classic South Florida strike on the 12Z Euro but it is showing unfavorable conditions in this run thankfully:

https://i.postimg.cc/wv5SJz9r/ecmwf-uv850-vort-watl-fh48-168.gif

It's not showing unfavorable conditions, it just happens to slam PR and DR again.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#94 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:10 pm

Even before the 2020 model debacle, the models failed to key in on significant systems 72 hours before they formed in Michael 2016 and Harvey 2017. So it's always best to look at ALL the guidance, especially ensembles.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#95 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:31 pm

12z HWRF is running late.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#96 Postby aspen » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:39 pm

cycloneye wrote:12z HWRF is running late.

It finally shows development within the next 72 hours before reaching the islands. Nothing really strong, but it’s something.

Despite focusing on the dominant northern lobe, the HWRF shows minimal gain in latitude, and 95L enters the Caribbean around 16N — south of the Greater Antilles. Usually, the HWRF has a north bias, as seen with Laura, Eta, and Fred.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#97 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:43 pm

HWRF doesn't really do much with it which is odd considering the favorable conditions it encounters. It heads due west towards the GA's.

Following the same path as Fred tbh.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#98 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:50 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:HWRF doesn't really do much with it which is odd considering the favorable conditions it encounters. It heads due west towards the GA's.

Following the same path as Fred tbh.

It's down the 997 mb and still intensifying at hour 90.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#99 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:54 pm

HWRF finds better conditions where Fred was but continues due W.
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Re: ATL: 95L - Models

#100 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:57 pm

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