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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#341 Postby sma10 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:00 pm

tolakram wrote:Final frame is in

https://i.imgur.com/84YTik1.gif


And 10 days away - a lifetime of changes ahead
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#342 Postby caneseddy » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:01 pm

tolakram wrote:Final frame is in

https://i.imgur.com/84YTik1.gif


Looks like it’s getting a bit too close to OBX when the run ends…
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#343 Postby skyline385 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:01 pm

Damn that’s not a good looking end to the Euro

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#344 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:06 pm

sma10 wrote:
tolakram wrote:Final frame is in

https://i.imgur.com/84YTik1.gif


And 10 days away - a lifetime of changes ahead

Yeah. Real time trends show some credence to the UKMET/Euro/CMC solutions of a weak system missing the initial trough.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#345 Postby SFLcane » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:07 pm

This could be signs of the "typhoon".
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#346 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:07 pm

skyline385 wrote:Damn that’s not a good looking end to the Euro

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A little uneasy run for SECONUS residents. But still could easily recurve since it's deepening very quickly at the end of the run.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#347 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:08 pm

SFLcane wrote:This could be signs of the "typhoon".

Typhoon is likely 3-4 weeks out before it can influence the synoptic pattern.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#348 Postby SFLcane » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:10 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
SFLcane wrote:This could be signs of the "typhoon".

Typhoon is 3-4 weeks out before it can influence the synoptic pattern.


It's probably related to the the typhoon in my opinion adding more unpredicatbility. Curious to see the ensembles
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#349 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:12 pm

I think it has a lot to do with the unfavorable environment ahead of it over the next five days, allowing it to miss the initial trough.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#350 Postby SFLcane » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:18 pm

Kingarabian wrote:I think it has a lot to do with the unfavorable environment ahead of it over the next five days, allowing it to miss the initial trough.


 https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1565411837633601542


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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#351 Postby SFLcane » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:21 pm

Euro run is nonsence EPS IS all out to sea.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#352 Postby Blown Away » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:23 pm

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12z GFS is @2200 miles ENE of the 12z ECMWF at 240 hours... :lol: :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#353 Postby skyline385 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:24 pm

SFLcane wrote:Euro run is nonsence EPS IS all out to sea.

Ensemble solutions typically tend to trail behind the deterministic solution from what i have seen, i dunno if it’s because of the resolution. It’s best to wait a few runs before dismissing it.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#354 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:26 pm

Won't be a quick flip for all the models. But the trend is real.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#355 Postby SFLcane » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:27 pm

skyline385 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Euro run is nonsence EPS IS all out to sea.

Ensemble solutions typically tend to trail behind the deterministic solution from what i have seen, i dunno if it’s because of the resolution. It’s best to wait a few runs before dismissing it.


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Could be. Well see
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#356 Postby SFLcane » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:29 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Won't be a quick flip for all the models. But the trend is real.


If the ensemble shifts maybe.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#357 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:31 pm

SFLcane wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:I think it has a lot to do with the unfavorable environment ahead of it over the next five days, allowing it to miss the initial trough.


https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1565411837633601542?s=20&t=jcd6K1g8AmNqjwZuFm8lHw


Probable but the remnants are still lingering west of the dateline on the Euro, CMC, and GFS -- in the extra tropics.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#358 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:38 pm

In the shorter term the Euro still insists in 91L getting hit hard by dry westerly shear north of DR/PR.
If indeed the trough develops over the MS river valley in the 7-10 day range then conditions may improve over it if it still hanging around.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#359 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:48 pm

12z Euro operational is an outlier among its ensembles.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#360 Postby LarryWx » Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:20 pm

NDG wrote:12z Euro operational is an outlier among its ensembles.

https://i.imgur.com/7a2iTsK.png


Indeed, no leftward shift of the EPS.
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