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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
Looks like it’s getting a bit too close to OBX when the run ends…
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
Damn that’s not a good looking end to the Euro

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
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Yeah. Real time trends show some credence to the UKMET/Euro/CMC solutions of a weak system missing the initial trough.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
This could be signs of the "typhoon".
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
skyline385 wrote:Damn that’s not a good looking end to the Euro
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A little uneasy run for SECONUS residents. But still could easily recurve since it's deepening very quickly at the end of the run.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
SFLcane wrote:This could be signs of the "typhoon".
Typhoon is likely 3-4 weeks out before it can influence the synoptic pattern.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
Kingarabian wrote:SFLcane wrote:This could be signs of the "typhoon".
Typhoon is 3-4 weeks out before it can influence the synoptic pattern.
It's probably related to the the typhoon in my opinion adding more unpredicatbility. Curious to see the ensembles
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
I think it has a lot to do with the unfavorable environment ahead of it over the next five days, allowing it to miss the initial trough.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
Kingarabian wrote:I think it has a lot to do with the unfavorable environment ahead of it over the next five days, allowing it to miss the initial trough.
https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1565411837633601542
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models


12z GFS is @2200 miles ENE of the 12z ECMWF at 240 hours...


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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
SFLcane wrote:Euro run is nonsence EPS IS all out to sea.
Ensemble solutions typically tend to trail behind the deterministic solution from what i have seen, i dunno if it’s because of the resolution. It’s best to wait a few runs before dismissing it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
Won't be a quick flip for all the models. But the trend is real.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
skyline385 wrote:SFLcane wrote:Euro run is nonsence EPS IS all out to sea.
Ensemble solutions typically tend to trail behind the deterministic solution from what i have seen, i dunno if it’s because of the resolution. It’s best to wait a few runs before dismissing it.
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Could be. Well see
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
Kingarabian wrote:Won't be a quick flip for all the models. But the trend is real.
If the ensemble shifts maybe.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
SFLcane wrote:Kingarabian wrote:I think it has a lot to do with the unfavorable environment ahead of it over the next five days, allowing it to miss the initial trough.
https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1565411837633601542?s=20&t=jcd6K1g8AmNqjwZuFm8lHw
Probable but the remnants are still lingering west of the dateline on the Euro, CMC, and GFS -- in the extra tropics.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
In the shorter term the Euro still insists in 91L getting hit hard by dry westerly shear north of DR/PR.
If indeed the trough develops over the MS river valley in the 7-10 day range then conditions may improve over it if it still hanging around.


If indeed the trough develops over the MS river valley in the 7-10 day range then conditions may improve over it if it still hanging around.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models
Indeed, no leftward shift of the EPS.
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