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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#401 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:58 am

Similar solution, sudden jog NE and develops.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#402 Postby skyline385 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:05 am

Kingarabian wrote:Still waiting on the ICON on Tropical Tidbits.

Same, seems to be taking forever


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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#403 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:06 am

12Z CMC looks similar to the 00z. Will deepen and recurve earlier than the UKMET/Euro/ICON.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#404 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:17 am

GFS needs to be ignored past its 48 hrs forecast, it continues to correct itself. Clearly too aggressive.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#405 Postby BobHarlem » Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:17 am

Icon trend, further west (out to 150 hours)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#406 Postby skyline385 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:19 am

NDG wrote:GFS needs to be ignored past its 48 hrs forecast, it continues to correct itself. Clearly too aggressive.


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Agreed i have given up on the GFS for this season


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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#407 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:20 am

12z UKMET continues to be the most west/south west compared to model guidance.

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 132 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+132 : 22.5N 71.7W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 07.09.2022 132 22.5N 71.7W 1011 21
0000UTC 08.09.2022 144 22.4N 72.7W 1009 21
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#408 Postby pgoss11 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:24 am

Kingarabian wrote:12Z CMC looks similar to the 00z. Will deepen and recurve earlier than the UKMET/Euro/ICON.

While the CMC does recurve it is west of the 00z run @ 162 hrs
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#409 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:26 am

12z ICON is a nice cliff hanger, still stuck at 150.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#410 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:37 am

Kingarabian wrote:12z ICON is a nice cliff hanger, still stuck at 150.

I'm at 168, it rapidly strengthens 91L when it recurves away from the CONUS and The Bahamas.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#411 Postby LarryWx » Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:51 am

Kingarabian wrote:12z UKMET continues to be the most west/south west compared to model guidance.

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 132 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+132 : 22.5N 71.7W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 07.09.2022 132 22.5N 71.7W 1011 21
0000UTC 08.09.2022 144 22.4N 72.7W 1009 21


That's the old run (0Z).
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#412 Postby skyline385 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:57 am

Kingarabian wrote:12z ICON is a nice cliff hanger, still stuck at 150.

It looks like a bug on TT. If you go to the home page then change models to ICON without changing the regions you can see upto 168 hrs. Small movement N as it starts intensifying.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#413 Postby sma10 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:08 pm

LarryWx wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:12z UKMET continues to be the most west/south west compared to model guidance.

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 132 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+132 : 22.5N 71.7W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 07.09.2022 132 22.5N 71.7W 1011 21
0000UTC 08.09.2022 144 22.4N 72.7W 1009 21


That's the old run (0Z).


Yes, the 12z does not regenerate, but there is still a trackable entity on the N coast of Cuba at 144hr
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#414 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:09 pm

This is unlikely to bother anyone on the eastcoast rather then a brief stall then getting picked up by next trof.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#415 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:12 pm

LarryWx wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:12z UKMET continues to be the most west/south west compared to model guidance.

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 132 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+132 : 22.5N 71.7W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 07.09.2022 132 22.5N 71.7W 1011 21
0000UTC 08.09.2022 144 22.4N 72.7W 1009 21


That's the old run (0Z).


Yup my bad.

21.7N 74.9W hour 144 on the 12z UKMET. Appears to be further SW.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#416 Postby skyline385 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:14 pm

ICON 12Z may have a path of escape this run but looks like there are two lows fighting.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#417 Postby LarryWx » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:15 pm

LarryWx wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:12z UKMET continues to be the most west/south west compared to model guidance.

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 132 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+132 : 22.5N 71.7W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 07.09.2022 132 22.5N 71.7W 1011 21
0000UTC 08.09.2022 144 22.4N 72.7W 1009 21


That's the old run (0Z).


As I mentioned, that's the 0Z UKMET. The 12Z doesn't have it redevelop into a new TC like the 0Z. But the 12Z, similar to prior runs, does keep it as a weak surface low. Interestingly, the 12Z is back to being far to the south as opposed to being up into the Bahamas in a recurve position with it now moving due west from 65W to 75W to the N coast of Cuba at the end of the run similar to the 12Z Wed run but moving much more slowly since it is near the 144 hour position of that run from 48 hours ago.

Edit: I saw after posting this that I got ninjaed by sma and King.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#418 Postby aspen » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:17 pm

12z HWRF correctly initialized 91L with a tilted vortex. Maybe this run will be closer to the Euro/UK/CMC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#419 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:18 pm

Time to see if the Euro splits the differences between the UKMET and CMC.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#420 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:20 pm

aspen wrote:12z HWRF correctly initialized 91L with a tilted vortex. Maybe this run will be closer to the Euro/UK/CMC


No chance its already turning NW before 65w and intensifying.
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