ATL: IDALIA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2561 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:49 pm

Wow

---- Current Analysis -----
Date : 30 AUG 2023 Time : 001020 UTC
Lat : 27:00:36 N Lon : 84:33:00 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
4.4 / 970.6mb/ 74.6kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
4.4 4.9 5.7

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR :N/A km

Center Temp : -45.4C Cloud Region Temp : -68.3C

Scene Type : EYE

Subtropical Adjustment : OFF

Extratropical Adjustment : OFF

Positioning Method : ARCHER POSITIONING

Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : CKZ Method

Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 0.5T/hour
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2562 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:49 pm

CDO becoming more symmetrical too. C5 isn't impossible
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2563 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:51 pm

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2564 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:51 pm

It's explosively intensifying

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2565 Postby Abdullah » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:52 pm

A pinhole eye of 6 mi across gives it approximately the same eye size as Andrew 1992, Opal 1995, and Dennis 2004.

How fast did those systems deepen, in millibars per hour?
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2566 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:52 pm

Currently there is a calculated 50% probability that it'll be mid Cat 4 at landfall
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2567 Postby Zonacane » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:52 pm

Abdullah wrote:A pinhole eye of 6 mi across gives it approximately the same eye size as Andrew 1992, Opal 1995, and Dennis 2004.

How fast did those systems deepen, in millibars per hour?

A lot
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2568 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:53 pm

GCANE wrote:Currently there is a calculated 50% probability that it'll be mid Cat 4 at landfall


Is that from SHIPS? Not sure how well it can be calibrated in this scenario given the recent trends for storms to bomb out in the Gulf before landfall and how small the eye currently is.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2569 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:54 pm

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2570 Postby skillz305 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:54 pm

tolakram wrote:Proxy Visible from SLIDER
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Beautiful. But not for its location.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2571 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:54 pm

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959mb/95 kt is probably where this thing sits right now
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2572 Postby WiscoWx02 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:55 pm

I'm thinking a high end category 2 at landfall or low end category 3. Regardless storm surge is still going to be insane due to the speed that Idalia is tracking and how big the winfield is.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2573 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:55 pm

Abdullah wrote:A pinhole eye of 6 mi across gives it approximately the same eye size as Andrew 1992, Opal 1995, and Dennis 2004.

How fast did those systems deepen, in millibars per hour?

Dennis at one point deepened at 11mb in one hour.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2574 Postby InfernoFlameCat » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:55 pm

WiscoWx02 wrote:I'm thinking a high end category 2 at landfall or low end category 3. Regardless storm surge is still going to be insane due to the speed that Idalia is tracking and how big the winfield is.

That is quite bearish as this seems to be knocking on the doorstep of cat 3 rn
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2575 Postby NDG » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:56 pm

NOAA recon turned back right away for another pass, it will be interesting what pressure it will read.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2576 Postby aspen » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:56 pm

I know everyone’s pretty excited by the possible pinhole, but I think the eye is a little larger. I also think we’ll see the pressure level off in a bit as the winds try to catch up. Idalia will probably be in the upper 950s next pass, and recon is barely finding evidence of Cat 2 surface winds. There’ll likely be a pause in its rapid deepening as the eye clears some more and the winds work their way down to the surface.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2577 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:56 pm

WiscoWx02 wrote:I'm thinking a high end category 2 at landfall or low end category 3. Regardless storm surge is still going to be insane due to the speed that Idalia is tracking and how big the winfield is.

That's pretty much where it's at right now. And it's clearly bombing, you don't think it will intensity any more?
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2578 Postby KC7NEC » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:58 pm

I hope that the models are handling the unprecedented water temps. I worry that since there is no data for water this warm the models could be underestimating the storm. Hopefully this thing doesn't RI tonight when it gets into the really hot water.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2579 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:59 pm

Current estimate for an EWRC occur is 10% probability.
The big tell is to watch the eye drops and see if relative humidity starts to drop; i.e. eye starts to dry out.
This is the clue that an EWRC is in the making.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2580 Postby jdjaguar » Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:02 pm

tolakram wrote:Proxy Visible from SLIDER
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can we say pinhole now?

just wow!
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