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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#41 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:08 pm

Our theoretical major is trending westward with each run I see. To be honest I'm not surprised. There has been a tendency for troughing in the Great Lakes to the East Coast and a ridge near Newfoundland Island since April. It has been the predominant pattern up here. Last year with Fiona (that clobbered Eastern Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, and Western Newfoundland) once the models locked onto a solution about seven days out they were remarkably consistent. I'll be interested to see what happens here.

As I always say, it is better to be in the model crosshairs 120hrs plus out from an event than to be in the model crosshairs 120hrs or less from an event.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#42 Postby hohnywx » Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:27 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#43 Postby Nimbus » Sun Aug 20, 2023 3:26 pm

aspen wrote:12z HWRF has a disorganized named storm tomorrow morning.


Could be, there is a low level circulation with light shear from the west currently.
12Z GFS has this north of Hispaniola at 96 hours and TD Six is keeping the weakness open for the slow migration north over three days to near New Brunswick Canada.

At 96 hours there is a High over New England so its only TD six stalling rather than moving NE that keeps 90L from getting trapped under the ridge. Since 90L appears better organized it probably will be a threat to Hispaniola and get parked west of the Bahamas. Wouldn't take much more of a westerly shift to be a problem for New England.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#44 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:37 pm

Nimbus wrote:
aspen wrote:12z HWRF has a disorganized named storm tomorrow morning.


Could be, there is a low level circulation with light shear from the west currently.
12Z GFS has this north of Hispaniola at 96 hours and TD Six is keeping the weakness open for the slow migration north over three days to near New Brunswick Canada.

At 96 hours there is a High over New England so its only TD six stalling rather than moving NE that keeps 90L from getting trapped under the ridge. Since 90L appears better organized it probably will be a threat to Hispaniola and get parked west of the Bahamas. Wouldn't take much more of a westerly shift to be a problem for New England.


Indeed, but it is worth posting updates on my weather blog at least once a day until the situation becomes clear.

PS For fun if anyone wants to do so, my blog contains detailed archives (sat images, radar images, charts surface - 500 millibars, event summaries, etc.) of every major storm that has impacted NYC to Nova Scotia since '05: Sadny, Irene, Fiona, there are all there.

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#45 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Aug 20, 2023 4:49 pm

Looks to me the GFS has the current LLC dying, with a new one forming to its east that organizes quickly before Hispaniola.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#46 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 20, 2023 8:38 pm

The 18Z Euro weakens it back to a wave prior to Hispaniola due to what appears to be strong wind shear.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#47 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:30 pm

gatorcane wrote:The 18Z Euro weakens it back to a wave prior to Hispaniola due to what appears to be strong wind shear.


I hope the Euro is correct. While a wet summer here it has been far worse in Nova Scotia, which is to our SW. NS has suffered from massive flooding all summer long the same goes for areas further west in New England such as Vermont. No areas in this general graphical neighborhood need the rains from a tropical system right now.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#48 Postby IcyTundra » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:15 pm

CMC is pretty far west this run. Definitely an outlier.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#49 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:27 pm

0z gfs has the ridge starting to fill back in as Franklin meanders off the east coast at 174hr
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#50 Postby ElectricStorm » Mon Aug 21, 2023 12:13 am

0z hurricane models:

HAFS-B bombs it to 962mb before Hispaniola :eek: I highly doubt it will get close to that before landfall
HAFS-A gets to 991mb before landfall
HMON down to 991mb approaching landfall
HWRF is just starting to run so we'll see
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#51 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:45 am

Icon's incomplete right now but 12z is doing some alarming stuff with Franklin. I can't post images from here.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#52 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:49 am

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12z GFS… Decent W shift through 42 hours…
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#53 Postby kevin » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:51 am

Ehm don't look at the 12z ICON, MH heading for the US...

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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#54 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:55 am

12z Canadian also shifting (so far) a good amount to the left.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#55 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:56 am

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Models sensing a different pattern now.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#56 Postby kevin » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:57 am

Big shift west on 12z GFS, roughly 3.5 degrees (240 miles) west at 78 hours.
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#57 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:02 am

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12z ICON… Wow
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#58 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:16 am

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12z GFS… Uh oh, left turn signal on!! :eek:
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#59 Postby jfk08c » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:20 am

Blown Away wrote:[url]https://i.postimg.cc/NFZPN9Dw/gfs-mslp-wind-watl-fh24-132.gif [/url]

12z GFS… Uh oh, left turn signal on!! :eek:


Giving some Jeanne vibes with that hook back west
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Re: ATL: FRANKLIN - Models

#60 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:22 am

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12z CMC… Trend
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