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MED: 01M - AVGI - Remnants

#1 Postby Landy » Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:36 am

Surprised a topic hasn't been made, not sure if it belongs here or in the active storms category since it has no name as of now. Appears to be a non-frontal system travelling southeastward. Latest GFS makes it landfall close to Tel Aviv in a bit less than 18 hours.

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Re: 01M/AVGI - Tropical Depression over the Eastern Mediterranean Sea

#2 Postby DioBrando » Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:38 am

Landy wrote:Surprised a topic hasn't been made, not sure if it belongs here or in the active storms category since it has no name as of now. Appears to be a non-frontal system travelling southeastward. Latest GFS makes it landfall close to Tel Aviv in a bit less than 18 hours.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/857017650042503178/1202597975784820766/us_sat-en_2024_02_01_12_30_5765_126.png?ex=65ce09a4&is=65bb94a4&hm=d3581d52cfad886c9af2c1cb1185881e91cd1e3cd2fbe2cc5443d3a992386e4d&

How rare is a Tel Aviv landfall
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Re: 01M/AVGI - Tropical Depression over the Eastern Mediterranean Sea

#3 Postby Vince_and_Grace_fan » Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:53 am



I only noticed this storm some hours ago. The Hellenic National Meteorological Service named it to 'Avgi' on 28 January, when it was an extratropical windstorm, and it affected Cyprus and South Turkey in the following days. Now this small, but well-defined convective vortex locates over a weakening upper-level low/trough area, however, models indicate very shallow warm core that barely evident even at the 850 hPa level, so it possibly not fully tropical(-like). Despite, the convection is quite strong with cloud top temperatures of -45 to -50 °C.
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Re: 01M/AVGI - Tropical Depression over the Eastern Mediterranean Sea

#4 Postby cycloneye » Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:31 pm

Avgi looks good. I moved the thread to active storms forum.

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Re: 01M/AVGI - Tropical Depression over the Eastern Mediterranean Sea

#5 Postby Vince_and_Grace_fan » Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:11 pm

This ship reported maximum winds of 27 kt south of the cyclone (32.1N, 31.5E) at 16 UTC: https://www.meteociel.com/temps-reel/obs_boueebateau.php?affint=1&code2=JZR5NVG&jour2=1&mois2=1&annee2=2024
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Re: 01M/AVGI - Tropical Depression over the Eastern Mediterranean Sea

#6 Postby Hurricane2022 » Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:12 pm

cycloneye wrote:Avgi looks good. Hi Landy. Moved the thread to active storms forum.

https://i.imgur.com/CEkRwf0.jpeg

I think Avgi seems to be a strong candidate to compete with TS Marco '08 for the title of smallest (sub)tropical storm on record :D
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Re: 01M/AVGI - Tropical Depression over the Eastern Mediterranean Sea

#7 Postby Sciencerocks » Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:57 pm

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Re: 01M/AVGI - Tropical Depression over the Eastern Mediterranean Sea

#8 Postby Vince_and_Grace_fan » Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:34 pm

ASCAT confirmed the maximum winds of 25-30 kt, however, it couldn't catch the very tiny circulation of the cyclone.

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Re: 01M/AVGI - Tropical Depression over the Eastern Mediterranean Sea

#9 Postby Subtrop » Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:42 pm

UKM
ME, 01, 2024020112, 03, UKM, 0, 337N, 307E, 26, 1017, TD, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, , , 221, , , M, , , , , AVGI
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Re: 01M/AVGI - Tropical Depression over the Eastern Mediterranean Sea

#10 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:36 am

Many tiny <45kt storms in the Globe can form small eyes with cloud tops -45/-50C. Especially in tropical transition. AVGI have -52/-55°C max top cloud. See Pablo 10.25.2019, TS wind in 50km radius, 30kt for Ascat but 45kt real. AVGI's EX phase is readable for it is broader. SS/TS phase of AVGI could have maximum winds in just 30km radius.
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Re: 01M/AVGI - Remnants

#11 Postby Vince_and_Grace_fan » Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:07 am

It made landfall around 06 UTC, and in Bet Dagan (near Tel Aviv) the pressure dropped to 1013.4 hPa with sustained winds of 50 km/h (27 kt) at that time. https://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynres?lang=en&ind=40179&decoded=yes&ndays=1&ano=2024&mes=02&day=02&hora=18

Based on the available data, it likely was a 35-40 kt storm yesterday.
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Re: 01M/AVGI - Remnants

#12 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:43 am

Real this Winds data?
" maximum gusts of 92 km/h (57 mph) in Haifa, 87 km/h (54 mph) in Ashkelon Port, and 80 km/h (50 mph) in Beit Dagan "
https://watchers.news/2024/02/02/medica ... in-israel/
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Re: 01M/AVGI - Remnants

#13 Postby Europa non è lontana » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:01 am

UKM added Avgi to their database yesterday.

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Re: MED: 01M - AVGI - Remnants

#14 Postby AJC3 » Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:46 pm

Based on a quick examination of the available data (ASCAT, surface and ship observations) I have labeled this cyclone as a Tropical Depression with peak MSW of 30kt.

Several people have made the case that due to the cyclone's small size, scatterometer data underestimated AVGIs peak winds, and that it may have (or likely) reached tropical storm strength, with MSW of at or slightly above 35kt. While I'm open to that possibility, for now I'm conservatively showing a 30kt peak, with enough of a warm core and great satellite presentation to call it a tropical, rather than subtropical cyclone. Aa always, I am open to changing this if presented with additional convincing data, or a stronger analysis from an official met agency. Feel free to add to this thread with any such data. Thanks.
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