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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#61 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:43 am

0z Hurricane models, all are still strengthening at the end of the run:
HWRF and HAFS-A both around Cat 2/mid to low 970s
HMON the weakest with a strengthening TS, takes longer to develop than the others
HAFS-B the strongest with 102kts/960mb at the end of the run
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#62 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:43 am

Jxdama wrote:almost all models swing this well east of the coast.this storm is done as far as affecting the US coast........next! :D

Although it’s the most likely scenario, it is too early to sound the all clear on a wave that just left Africa, just because it recurves 150+ hours out.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#63 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Aug 10, 2025 1:48 am

Jxdama wrote:almost all models swing this well east of the coast.this storm is done as far as affecting the US coast........next! :D


Famous last words...That's a story we've seen a million times over the years. Way too soon for an all clear.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#64 Postby Nimbus » Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:17 am

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
Jxdama wrote:almost all models swing this well east of the coast.this storm is done as far as affecting the US coast........next! :D

Although it’s the most likely scenario, it is too early to sound the all clear on a wave that just left Africa, just because it recurves 150+ hours out.


150 hours out track prediction for hurricanes historically has been only 50/50 but the new AI may be improving to the point that the 00z run trend is statistically indicative. There could very well be a weakness east of the gulf ridging and Erin could be far enough north to feel it. The front riding east through Kansas may dig a little more or less in 10 days when it moves off the coast. The hurricane strength also may feed back into the upper air analysis by then etc.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#65 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:59 am

At the 06z GFS run, it moves over Bermuda but is already long range at that point so changes will occur.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#66 Postby Jxdama » Sun Aug 10, 2025 6:46 am

eastcoastFL wrote:
Jxdama wrote:almost all models swing this well east of the coast.this storm is done as far as affecting the US coast........next! :D


Famous last words...That's a story we've seen a million times over the years. Way too soon for an all clear.

maybe, but models only get better as we get closer in time. fwiw, the 6z euro aifs swipes the carolinas, but thats waaaay north of 0z which was in the gulf, trends continue
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#67 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:12 am

06z European is stronger than 00z.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#68 Postby Hurricane2022 » Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:18 am

HAFS-B 06z
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#69 Postby Hurricane2022 » Sun Aug 10, 2025 7:37 am

HMON 06z
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#70 Postby TampaWxLurker » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:21 am

12Z GFS has it start to make its turn north east of Bermuda.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#71 Postby BobHarlem » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:28 am

12z Icon recurves it east of Bermuda. (shift right from just west at 0z)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#72 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:28 am

Seems the 12zGFS is on the very eastern side of the ensemble envelope, don’t be surprised if we trend west in later runs
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#73 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:32 am

I will be watching for trends over the next few days.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#74 Postby BobHarlem » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:34 am

12z GFS safely east of Bermuda.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#75 Postby Ian2401 » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:36 am

Wow that ridge is coming in weaker and weaker each run. Good trends for CONUS, it is hard to see how a CONUS impact could result from a setup like this but still time for things to change. At the end of the day climatology says it is quite hard to get a storm that forms this far east to make it all the way west - it's best chance is always to stay weak for as long as it can.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#76 Postby BobHarlem » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:42 am

12z Canadian also shifted right, but remains west of Bermuda. Not sure if the euro will join the weaker ridge party or not yet.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#77 Postby Stratton23 » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:53 am

Im not buying the weaker ridge trend, especially on the GFS which has a huge issue with handling ridging , in addition 97L is currently tracking south of most model guidance including the hurricane models, I have a growing suspicion that this will be an irma or florence type situation
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#78 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:56 am

12z GFS weakens the heck out of the mid levels over Bermuda, EC & GEFS don't show such weakness over Bermuda.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#79 Postby TomballEd » Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:58 am

eastcoastFL wrote:
Jxdama wrote:almost all models swing this well east of the coast.this storm is done as far as affecting the US coast........next! :D


Famous last words...That's a story we've seen a million times over the years. Way too soon for an all clear.


My unofficial and amateur forecast based on models and ensembles, the trend is the friend, this is 90% fish storm, and of the 10% uncertainty, 5% is for Bermuda or the Canadian Maritimes.

But this almost certainly will become the first hurricane of the season and probably the first major, and a Cat 4 storm, fish or not, will be fun to track. Long track ACE machine!

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#80 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 10, 2025 12:04 pm

Definitely the operational GFS is on the far right of the GEFS ensembles which don't show such a weakness over Bermuda.

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