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Should Irene be considered a dud

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Jim Cantore

Remember that recent thread about dud storms?

#1 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:54 pm

Should we call Irene a dud?

I say absolutely Most overhyped storm in my opinion since Isidore in 2002
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#2 Postby WindRunner » Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:09 pm

No, she became a hurricane against odds and came much closer to land than most of the people here thought she would.
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#3 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:14 pm

I thought it would be dead a week ago

as for the media hype the past 5 days I call it a dud

as for its life by no means is it
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#4 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:15 pm

Yes, if you read the previous amateur discussions I made and the thread in its entirety then you will realize many people WAY overhyped this storm, including me. It may not be the biggest dud but I sure did spend a big amount of time on this for nothing. :lol:
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#5 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:19 pm

It did give parts of the east coast a scare but no more then high waves
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#6 Postby Opal storm » Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:21 pm

Irene is now a hurricane and strengthening,how is that considered a dud???

Just because it didn't hit the U.S doesn't mean it's a dud.
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#7 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:10 pm

I say dud MEDIA wise

life wise this was a suprise I didnt give it 24 hours after day 2 of being TD 9
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#8 Postby sma10 » Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:15 pm

The only place Irene was overhyped was on weather message boards.
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#9 Postby superfly » Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:52 pm

Overhyped media-wise? What media are you watching?
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#10 Postby Swimdude » Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:08 pm

It's only over-hyped here. And EVERYTHING is over-hyped here. If you dislike that fact, then don't read the threads. :lol:
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#11 Postby Jim Cantore » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:17 pm

there are several factors that make it a dud a several that make it not dud

Facts that make it a dud

Missed U.S
Media over hyped it
Forcasts had it at a hurricane 4 days ago
Once promising wave had half its life hanging on to TD

Facts making not a dud

Should have been dead on day 3
Actully became a hurricane in the first place
Got even that close to the U.S in the first place
Actully became a tropical storm
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#12 Postby NastyCat4 » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:27 pm

Irene is only overhyped to the ludicrous forecasts that were going on last week--that she was going to be the second coming of Andrew (the sharp left, and rapid intensification over the Gulf Stream). That was such laughable overhype.
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#13 Postby Jim Cantore » Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:41 pm

I laugh when they call something the next andrew

I wasnt home in Jersey for this but a Friend of mine said the news was comparing this to another Gloria or Bob

Get real

some people will do anything for ratings

Irene my official status

A media dud
a suprise to KNOWLAGEABLE forcasters
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#14 Postby Jim Cantore » Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:45 pm

Knowlageable forcasters such as ourselves at storm 2K, The NHC, Dr Steve Lyons, Joe Bastardi (I laugh everytime the name is mentioned if you take out the I look at what you have) And last and certainly not least the late John Hope who is forcasting hurricanes somewhere up above.


feel free to add the the list

A dud to overhyping morons such as

CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, And local stations from Florida to Maine.
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#15 Postby senorpepr » Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:56 pm

Personally, I didn't see very many media venues hyping Irene. The only hyping I saw was here on Storm2k of people comparing Irene to Andrew and Frances. However, in my opinion, this was a pretty clear-cut storm with very little surprises.
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#16 Postby Jim Cantore » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:06 pm

I didnt see the hype I saw with frances last year which fell well short of that hype

Some east coast stations like in my area hyped it to death
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#17 Postby superfly » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:10 pm

Hurricane Floyd wrote:CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, And local stations from Florida to Maine.


What are you talking about? There was very little hype that I saw.
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#18 Postby beachbum_al » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:13 pm

Dud
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#19 Postby webke » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:17 pm

I think that the media only really pays attention when the possibility of a landfall exists, when that goes away they turn to something else to improve thier ratings.
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#20 Postby Jim Cantore » Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:46 pm

Irene is no means among the major overhypes of these news networks just minor overhype (my local stations especially)

Major Overhypes

* HUGE overhypes
** Comically overhyped

*Gloria (worst over hype ever)
*Allen (WAY overhyped)
*Frances (fell apart in Bahamas)
Chantal (sudden death)
*Debby (what a collapse)
*Bret (could have caused several billion in damage)
Dean (2001) (hyped to crush Florda)
**Ethel (this was NEVER a cat 5)
Bonnie (8/11/04 Could be a hurricane in the morning :lol: )

Lesser Overhypes

Floyd (not a typo)
Ivan (also not a typo)
Dennis (1999)
Lili (still considerable damage)
Isidore (major damage still in Mexico)
Isabel (MUCH weaker but alot of damage still in a large area)
Irene (2005) (Doesn't belong on any of these lists)


Moderate-Major UNDER hypes

* MAJOR under hypes

*Charley (hello cat 4)
*Alex (minimal TS out to sea RIIIGHT)
Gaston (nobody much gave it a shot)
*Jeanne (hello back she comes like a boomerang)
*Claudette (stronger then given credit for)
Cindy (Possibly minimal hurricane?)
Gabrielle (almost a hurricane normally would have been around 45 with that amount of time)
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