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#21 Postby webke » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:16 pm

For your information I have owned my owned business and have worked for other businesses for over 15 years here at the beach. and I know for a fact that 99% of the businesses close down during a hurricane, as they are smart enough to adhere to an evacuation order and take care of their own personal and their employees needs.
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#22 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:42 pm

BUD wrote:a land falling hurricane???
Ours has now we have to be open for the fire,emt,police,ect.Times is changing for sure.Its in our "new"policy handbook that we are open and all mangers and crew has to be on time before the storm hits.The new stores has BIG generators that can keep a store running for 4 days!!!
I asked the manger what winds can the store stand up to,he said over 200mph!!

If,a cat 5 storm was coming I would like to be running to the next state,but I guess I would stay and open the store with my wife and my daughter would go with my parents.FOR one thing is sure we will be the only fast food joint open!!!!!


The manager is a moron.

He should be tied with rope to a palm tree if a Cat 5 200mph hurricane comes.

What a waste of quality oxygen for us and the plants to digest.

I repeat, the manager is a moron.

P.S. - Remind him that if you work there and end up injured (if not dead) from a direct hit by a hurricane, you'll own his life, everything he makes and owns and the company's assets in full.

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#23 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:45 pm

Windtalker1 wrote:Florida has the worst laws for employees...Laws protect the employer because it's a right to work State...It SUCKS working in FLORIDA!!!!!!


Those laws don't apply to the term "reckless endangerment"...An easy million dollar winner.
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#24 Postby TheShrimper » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:59 pm

The Waffle House NEVER closes. I would have been pretty pissed off if I had evacuated to the NE during Charley, and was denied entrance for my hashbrowns diced, chopped, smothered, covered, capped and peppered. The WH at Jones Loop Rd. in Punta Gorda did blow down, along with the Pizza Hut, Day's Inn, BK, Macs, Hess and Pilot Travel Center.
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#25 Postby TheShrimper » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:08 pm

The Circle K store here on Pine Island is ridiculous when there is a threat of a storm. I have seen them board up even before warnings or watches were issued. The few that remain open inland in Cape Coral, got busted during Dennis for gouging the gas prices. Serves them right.
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#26 Postby BUD » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:00 pm

webke wrote:For your information I have owned my owned business and have worked for other businesses for over 15 years here at the beach. and I know for a fact that 99% of the businesses close down during a hurricane, as they are smart enough to adhere to an evacuation order and take care of their own personal and their employees needs.



Yes,used to be 99%.Now more like 80%.
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#27 Postby KeyLargoDave » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:04 pm

Interesting that in the Keys, all the lodging businesses are required to kick their guests out if a mandatory visitor evacuation is ordered. I'm not sure what authority they use to enforce it, but every hotel, from the big chains to the little mom and pops, comply with the evac orders, which means they don't have to keep their employees around either. The mayor of Key West also has the authority to close bars (or at least stop alcohol sales) when an evacuation order is in effect, if the storm is getting close and too many people are hanging out in the bars. So there's some way to order at least some businesses to close. I think "state of emergency" orders give authorities some power over businesses, but obviously there are places in Florida, as people have mentioned, where this isn't happening.

I can't imagine any fast-food place is really built to withstand "200 mph winds" -- especially if it's a large store with a flat roof and few support columns. After Andrew, I saw a demolished Taco Bell, Aaron Rents, car dealerships, the Best store, Penny's, Publix, and others. Concrete-block walls came down on many of them.
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#28 Postby BUD » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:19 pm

KeyLargoDave wrote:Interesting that in the Keys, all the lodging businesses are required to kick their guests out if a mandatory visitor evacuation is ordered. I'm not sure what authority they use to enforce it, but every hotel, from the big chains to the little mom and pops, comply with the evac orders, which means they don't have to keep their employees around either. The mayor of Key West also has the authority to close bars (or at least stop alcohol sales) when an evacuation order is in effect, if the storm is getting close and too many people are hanging out in the bars. So there's some way to order at least some businesses to close. I think "state of emergency" orders give authorities some power over businesses, but obviously there are places in Florida, as people have mentioned, where this isn't happening.

I can't imagine any fast-food place is really built to withstand "200 mph winds" -- especially if it's a large store with a flat roof and few support columns. After Andrew, I saw a demolished Taco Bell, Aaron Rents, car dealerships, the Best store, Penny's, Publix, and others. Concrete-block walls came down on many of them.




That was the first think that will go at a grocery store before a hurricane comes BEER!!! :lol: :lol: AND batterys
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#29 Postby skufful » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:26 pm

Steve wrote:Right to Work state. What a joke. I hate stuff like that where the citizens get trampled by some politicalspeak crapola that just means you have the right to be fired. Who does the government work for anyway?

Steve


Amazing. Try owning a business. At least in SC if you don't do you job, I can fire you. I can assure you that no one can in SC fire someone for not staying for a hurricane. Our employment commission is pretty tough. But you are fos if you think that the government needs to be in everybody's business.
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#30 Postby skufful » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:33 pm

Sorry if I sound a little rough, but it's tough enough running a business without the government getting tin the way. If you don't likje the job, get the heck out.

For hurricanes, I ask employees to have a "hurricane plan." We own convenience stores with gas, and people need fuel to get out of town. We try to stay open until absolutely required. For example, we have evacuated three times, but never closed because the storm changed course. If someone had to go, they weren't fired, but they darn sure were if they didn't return after the evacuation order was lifted. (In a timely manner)
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#31 Postby MBismyPlayground » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:17 am

BUD wrote:
MBismyPlayground wrote:BUD, I know exactly what you are saying. The golf course my hubbie works at was open all the way up til right before before Charlie hit land, thank God only as a cat one.The ONLY reason they closed is because the sky tram over the water way was swaying so much there would be no way to get back to the 17 side of it. I know for a FACT there was NO ONE playing golf and this was NOT the policy of the company but a decision from the "HEAD PRO" who, by the way is not a class A LMAO. Maybe it is a NMB kind of thing??? haha And you can beleive I was raising cain the entire time!



I know where that place is and it should be the first place to be closed when a hurricane cames!!!!
I also know when Hurricane Bonnie,Fran,bertha, were coming very close that everybody would leave.I wish our governor would make some new laws about hurricanes.


I figured you would recognize it. haha.....Can you imagine Myrtle Beach National putting golfers in the sky tram during a hurricane?????Even a small ts would be dangerous. And who in their right mind would try to play golf with a cane coming???Well, believe it or not, there were some idiots out there. But I think it is all about keeping up the ummm....eerrr......good name of MB. Never ever MENTION the word Cane in these parts, tourist might not come. Danger??? Just turn a blind eye to it. Basically what the authorities do is make people who stay in a danger area sign something saying that they won't hold the city/county emergency personel responsible if there are injuries ect. Here is SC there is no one to enforce "Common Sense"
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#32 Postby MBismyPlayground » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:25 am

skufful wrote:
Steve wrote:Right to Work state. What a joke. I hate stuff like that where the citizens get trampled by some politicalspeak crapola that just means you have the right to be fired. Who does the government work for anyway?

Steve


Amazing. Try owning a business. At least in SC if you don't do you job, I can fire you. I can assure you that no one can in SC fire someone for not staying for a hurricane. Our employment commission is pretty tough. But you are fos if you think that the government needs to be in everybody's business.


Well, I do own a business here is SC and I would NEVER expect anyone to stay while there is danger. PERIOD. If there are evacuations, I would expect my employees to go and go quickly. Especially those with children. It is a stressful enough time as it is without one having to worry about losing a job because they are unwilling to put themselves or family members in danger.
You are right, no one can fire you, but the THREAT of it would be enough.
And of course, since it is a right to fire state, there DOESN'T have to be a reason. Poof, one comes back from a evac and they have no job, with no explanation needed. So REALLY it is one either stays and allows themself to be in the eye of danger or face possible loss of employment.
And no offense, but you sound like you would be on the opposite side of the fence. That all mighty dollar makes people do things that just aren't right.
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#33 Postby BUD » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:35 am

skufful wrote:
Steve wrote:Right to Work state. What a joke. I hate stuff like that where the citizens get trampled by some politicalspeak crapola that just means you have the right to be fired. Who does the government work for anyway?

Steve


Amazing. Try owning a business. At least in SC if you don't do you job, I can fire you. I can assure you that no one can in SC fire someone for not staying for a hurricane. Our employment commission is pretty tough. But you are fos if you think that the government needs to be in everybody's business.


Tell that to the people that did not come into work at the waffle house during the mandatory vac they ALL were fired and the employment commission did nothing to help them.(That was during Charley)
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