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#1 Postby azsnowman » Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:51 pm

O'TAY FOLKS, here's a ONCE in a lifetime JOB......we just received this via email, yes, it's LEGIT!!


Good Morning Gang:
This is a little away from K-9 training but an opportunity for a K-9
Instructor.
Gary my Partner is sitting up a contract for people to go to IRAQ and
train handlers at the Iraq Air Port. The length of time there would be one
year and $10.000 per month pay.
If you are interested, please feel free to call



"YES!" "$10,000 a MONTH :eek:

Dennis 8-)
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#2 Postby azsnowman » Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:52 pm

Sorry Chad, Marshall.....this is NOT advertising per si`, just wanted to show folks how much money K9 trainers are getting these days!

Dennis
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#3 Postby gtalum » Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:06 pm

If I were single I would seriously have considered going to Iraq as a private contractor. I know people making a ton of $$ over there.
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#4 Postby azsnowman » Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:09 pm

gtalum wrote:If I were single I would seriously have considered going to Iraq as a private contractor. I know people making a ton of $$ over there.


We could go, we (my wife and I) are certified Police K9 Handlers/Trainers, let me tell ya, it's TEMPTING but.............I love my house/home too much!

Dennis
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#5 Postby pojo » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:22 pm

gtalum wrote:If I were single I would seriously have considered going to Iraq as a private contractor. I know people making a ton of $$ over there.


They are making a ton of money over there..... depending on location and job civilian contractors pull in anywhere from 5,000/mo to 10,000/mo. Civilian contractors here stateside are asking to go over there.

If you are military 1) you get paid initial base pay for your rank 2) numerous incentives to include, but not limited to danger pay, BAH (housing), Family Separation, hostile pay, etc. It is an awesome chunk of money when you get home.
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#6 Postby Persepone » Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:33 pm

As a civilian contractor you don't even have minimal protection afforded to military personnel.

Your life insurance is null and void because if you are killed over there it is an "act of war."

The contracting agencies (e.g. Haliburtun) are the ones making the money--not the poor people who go over as contractors. Yes, they do make what sounds like "good money"--thousands per month--but at what mental and physical cost?

The chances that a contractor will be kidnapped, tortured, killed nastily, seriously injured and permanently disabled in horrific ways are much better than for military personnel and those are pretty horrific... The odds are not good.

$10,000 a month sounds like good money--but realize that when all is said and done, it is only $120K/year and all you need is a 4-year college degree and a middle management job in IT for one of the large insurance companies or banks, etc. to make that kind of money. So if you want to earn that kind of money, go back to school, get that degree, and go to work for Bank of America or Fidelity or someone and within 5 years you'll be making that kind of money. And you are less likely to be missing arms, legs, eyes, other useful bits and parts. And no matter what happens, you are unlikely to have your unattached head on a pole on Arab TV stations.

I think it is utterly disgraceful that our soldiers over there do not have protections that we think they should have--Kevlar vests, properly armored vehicles, etc. etc. etc. And it is equally disgraceful to be sidestepping the rules on declared/undeclared wars by using the National Guard instead of regular army... they do not even have the basic protections regular soldiers do... If I could wave a magic wand and see that all our soldiers --regular and national guard--and contractors and everyone else could come home now--and safely--I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I think the soldiers are doing what is right--don't get me wrong--but I don't think that the government is supporting them as much as they could be and should be. Why don't they have the best protection and materials that they should? And I don't think that having all those civilian contracting houses sending people into harm's way like that is a good thing. It may sound like "good money" but there's a hitch to it somewhere...

Perhaps it is like being in the Ice Capades, etc. The pay sounds good to young skaters, etc. except that they pay their own travel expenses, etc. out of their paychecks so in the end they don't make what they expect to... Which is fine if presented properly "up front"--but it really isn't.

I guess this type of thing happens in all wars to some degree or another, but at least in wars prior to Vietnam, people who went as civilians (and yes there were a bunch in WWII, etc.) were told exactly what they were getting into and were not lured by huge sums of money...

Think long and hard before you do this.
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#7 Postby USCG_Hurricane_Watcher » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:46 am

My brother-in-law is currently in Baghdad right now as a private contractor training soon-to-be Iraqi police officers. It sounded like good money while he was still in SC, but now that he's doing that job, he vows he'll never go back...it's not worth the money. Not with a wife and kids back home - not for police who can't even "police" their own ranks.
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#8 Postby gtalum » Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:43 am

Persepone, I already have my degree. :)

I make that much money now anyway, in my own business. What I should have made more clear is that if I was younger and single, I would go over there. Not now. There's something to be said for adventure. And despite the dangers you point out, only a few contractors have been kidnapped or killed.
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#9 Postby nystate » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:45 am

Remember those four contract workers in Fallujah...remember seeing bits and pieces of them hanging from bridges on CNN?

No thanks, not for me.
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#10 Postby gtalum » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:46 am

nystate wrote:Remember those four contract workers in Fallujah...remember seeing bits and pieces of them hanging from bridges on CNN?


Four. Out of how many? They're probably safer than tourists in any major American city.
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