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hurricane name ?

#1 Postby leenita » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:18 pm

What happens when a hurricane crosses from the GOM into the Pacific? DOes it get a new name? Has this happened often?
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#2 Postby wxwatcher91 » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:29 pm

first of all, welcome to S2K!

I'm not sure about whether the storm changes its name or not... I remember reading somewhere that one cyclone traveled between the Atlantic and Pacific three times... if you'll recall, there was a storm in the Pacific early this year that traversed Mexico but didnt survive the trip over land...
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#3 Postby The Big Dog » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:33 pm

I believe now it keeps the name. It wasn't always like that, though. Used to be that it got the next name on the list for whatever basin it moved into. Resulted in the occasional sex change, too.

I think storms even keep the name when they move from the Eastern or Central Pacific to the Western Pacific. This might be where it happened three times. Hurricane/Typhoon John, around '94 or so?
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#4 Postby WindRunner » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:35 pm

I remember reading about the Joan-Miriam transition, never weakened below 45kts, but it went over Central America. I think that was late 70s/early 80s, though.
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#5 Postby wxmann_91 » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:39 pm

WindRunner wrote:I remember reading about the Joan-Miriam transition, never weakened below 45kts, but it went over Central America. I think that was late 70s/early 80s, though.


That was in 1988.
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#6 Postby WeatherEmperor » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:40 pm

Didnt hurricane Ceasar from 1996 get a name change once it went crossed into the EPAC?

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#7 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:41 pm

Before, if a storm would cross from one basin to the other, the name will be changed.

Example, in 1996 Cesar crossed Nicaragua and when it emerged in the Pacific it became Douglas.

CESAR DEVELOPED IN THE SOUTHEASTERN CARIBBEAN AND MOVED MAINLY
WESTWARD. CESAR PASSED OVER CURACAO AS A TROPICAL STORM. LATER IT
HIT NICARAGUA AS AN 80 MPH HURRICANE AND MAINTAINED TROPICAL STORM
STRENGTH WHILE PASSING OVER CENTRAL AMERICA...CAUSING CONSIDERABLE
DEATH AND DAMAGE. IT MOVED INTO THE EASTERN PACIFIC WHERE IT WAS
RENAMED DOUGLAS...WHICH BECAME A POWERFUL HURRICANE.


But, according to new rules established by the National Hurricane Center, I believe, if a system crosses from one basin to the other, and the main center of circulation survives, the system retains its name. If the center dissipates, and a new develops in the new basin, a new name is given.
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#8 Postby weatherwoman » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:30 pm

good question
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#9 Postby weatherwoman » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:30 pm

good question
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Re: hurricane name ?

#10 Postby Jim Hughes » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:36 pm

leenita wrote:What happens when a hurricane crosses from the GOM into the Pacific? DOes it get a new name? Has this happened often?


I believe this subject matter came up this year with TS Brett . I could have sworn that I heard some TWC people say that it would be renamed if it entered the EPAC.


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#11 Postby senorpepr » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:41 pm

Well... here's the deal. It really depends on the storm. If the storm can maintain itself as a bona fide tropical cyclone across land, it will keep the same name. However, it's very difficult to get a tropical storm across the mountains of Mexico without tearing up the cyclone. In a case like that, once the system redevelops in the Eastern Pacific, it will gain a new name.

However, with that said, systems cross from the Eastern Pacific to the Central Pacific and from the Central Pacific to the Western Pacific occasionally. These systems, since they maintain structure when crossing from one basin to another, keep the original name.
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#12 Postby P.K. » Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:35 pm

Here is an example of a tropical cyclone that crossed basins last season.

PAS D'ALERTE EN COURS A LA REUNION
*****************************************************

CYCLONE TROPICAL INTENSE JULIET EX-ADELINE

PRESSION ESTIMEE AU CENTRE : 930 HPA.
POSITION LE 06 AVRIL A 16 HEURES LOCALES: 13.4 SUD / 86.4 EST
(TREIZE DEGRES QUATRE SUD ET QUATRE-VINGT-SIX DEGRES QUATRE EST).

DISTANCE DES COTES REUNIONNAISES: 3350 KM A L'EST-NORD-EST
DEPLACEMENT: OUEST-SUD-OUEST A 18 KM/H.
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#13 Postby leenita » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:50 pm

Thank you for all of the answers--I was hoping I would not get laughed off of the board for asking a stupid question!
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#14 Postby WeatherEmperor » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:57 pm

leenita wrote:Thank you for all of the answers--I was hoping I would not get laughed off of the board for asking a stupid question!


Remember the only stupid question is the one that is not asked.

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#15 Postby The Big Dog » Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:04 pm

Not a stupid question at all.
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#16 Postby senorpepr » Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:14 pm

P.K. wrote:Here is an example of a tropical cyclone that crossed basins last season.

PAS D'ALERTE EN COURS A LA REUNION
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CYCLONE TROPICAL INTENSE JULIET EX-ADELINE

PRESSION ESTIMEE AU CENTRE : 930 HPA.
POSITION LE 06 AVRIL A 16 HEURES LOCALES: 13.4 SUD / 86.4 EST
(TREIZE DEGRES QUATRE SUD ET QUATRE-VINGT-SIX DEGRES QUATRE EST).

DISTANCE DES COTES REUNIONNAISES: 3350 KM A L'EST-NORD-EST
DEPLACEMENT: OUEST-SUD-OUEST A 18 KM/H.


Now that's a different situtation. The Indian Basin changes names. The like to play by different rules than the Northern Hemisphere.
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#17 Postby P.K. » Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:58 am

You should know by now I like to point out all possibilities with this sort of thing Mike. :lol:
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