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Tropical Weather Outlook

#1 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:17 pm

Why do we have to wait until 5:30 to get the 5pm update. I don't want to hear the overworked and under staffed excuse.
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#2 Postby senorpepr » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:22 pm

Blown_away wrote:Why do we have to wait until 5:30 to get the 5pm update. I don't want to hear the overworked and under staffed excuse.


Because it's not the 5pm update, but rather the 5:30pm update.

It's not a matter of overworked/understaffed... it's a matter of 5:30 is their normal issuance time.
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#3 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:25 pm

Good point! Insert my foot in my :lol: mouth!
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#4 Postby southerngale » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:31 pm

Blown_away wrote:Good point! Insert my foot in my :lol: mouth!


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#5 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:32 pm

The NHC has all day to come up with the update....I think 5PM and 11PM should not be hard to meet.
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#6 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:33 pm

Rate on time, just like I've been saying!!

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ABNT20 KNHC 172119
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
530 PM EDT WED AUG 17 2005

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM IRENE...LOCATED ABOUT 590 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF CAPE RACE
NEWFOUNDLAND.

THE REMNANTS OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION TEN ARE CENTERED ABOUT 300 MILES
EAST OF THE LEEWARD ISLANDS. ALTHOUGH THIS SYSTEM HAS BEEN
MAINTAINING A BROAD CIRCULATION AND AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...THE
ASSOCIATED THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY REMAINS POORLY ORGANIZED.
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE STILL NOT PARTICULARLY FAVORABLE FOR
DEVELOPMENT...BUT COULD GRADUALLY BECOME MORE FAVORABLE OVER THE
NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THIS SYSTEM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO RE-DEVELOP
INTO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION LATER TODAY OR ON THURSDAY...AND AN AIR
FORCE RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT IS SCHEDULED TO
INVESTIGATE THE AREA ON THURSDAY...IF NECESSARY. THE REMNANTS OF
THE DEPRESSION ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE ON A WEST-NORTHWESTWARD
TRACK AND SHOULD PASS TO THE NORTH OF THE LEEWARD ISLANDS...
HOWEVER...INTERESTS IN THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS AND THE VIRGIN
ISLANDS SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS SYSTEM.

ELSEWHERE... TROPICAL STORM FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED THROUGH
THURSDAY.

FORECASTER FRANKLIN
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#7 Postby southerngale » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:36 pm

boca_chris wrote:The NHC has all day to come up with the update....I think 5PM and 11PM should not be hard to meet.


Neither would 4pm and 10pm or say 6pm and midnight. However, those aren't the times they chose to do the updates.

What's the problem?
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#8 Postby NastyCat4 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:37 pm

Neither would 4pm and 10pm or say 6pm and midnight. However, those aren't the times they chose to do the updates.

What's the problem?


Some people need the extra hour or two of "worry time." :D
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#9 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:41 pm

well at least the outlook says that a hurricane hunter aircraft is on standby to check it out tomorrow if need be.

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#10 Postby senorpepr » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:42 pm

boca_chris wrote:The NHC has all day to come up with the update....I think 5PM and 11PM should not be hard to meet.


Well, here's the deal. Not a great deal of effort is really put into the TWO, compared to the advisory packages. Lets look back at last week - they were warning on four systems: Irene, Fernanda, Greg, and 10L. All of these are due at 03Z, 09Z, 15Z, and 21Z, respectively.

Since last minute information can change an advisory bulletin, ie: recon confirms an upgrade from tropical storm to hurricane, by pushing the TWO back 30 minutes saves them one additional thing to ticker with at the last minute.

With that said, to my knowledge, the reason of them pushing forward the 10:30pm TWO from 11:30pm is for media reasons. This advance allows the media outlets 30 minutes to prepare before the nightly news to go over the tropics. Regardless, their current system is probably the best -- speaking from the forecaster's point of view.
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#11 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:48 pm

Yeah senorpepr is right. however we do have a newstation Channel 7 news here in South Florida that starts at 10pm every night so they dont have that 30min luxury that other news stations do around here to prepare their stuff. Nonetheless they still manage to work around that stuff.

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#12 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:54 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:Yeah senorpepr is right. however we do have a newstation Channel 7 news here in South Florida that starts at 10pm every night so they dont have that 30min luxury that other news stations do around here to prepare their stuff. Nonetheless they still manage to work around that stuff.

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May I suggest you seek your hurricane information from other sources. Channel 7 would not be a place I would turn to for hurricane info unless you just want to stare at Loreta.
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#13 Postby weatherwoman » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:36 pm

sign up on the hurricane center for forcast to come to your e-mail you get them before its posted on the nhc site
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#14 Postby WeatherEmperor » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:43 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:Yeah senorpepr is right. however we do have a newstation Channel 7 news here in South Florida that starts at 10pm every night so they dont have that 30min luxury that other news stations do around here to prepare their stuff. Nonetheless they still manage to work around that stuff.

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May I suggest you seek your hurricane information from other sources. Channel 7 would not be a place I would turn to for hurricane info unless you just want to stare at Loreta.


LOL oh come on j. You know me better then that :D I would never depend on Channel 7 for my hurricane info.

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#15 Postby jabber » Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:01 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:Yeah senorpepr is right. however we do have a newstation Channel 7 news here in South Florida that starts at 10pm every night so they dont have that 30min luxury that other news stations do around here to prepare their stuff. Nonetheless they still manage to work around that stuff.

<RICKY>


May I suggest you seek your hurricane information from other sources. Channel 7 would not be a place I would turn to for hurricane info unless you just want to stare at Loreta.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#16 Postby HurricaneJoe22 » Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:11 am

Begin rant.

Do you guys notice that Ch. 4 seems to be leading its newscasts with something related to the weather like almost every day...lately they just talk about how hot it is....well, hello, it's August. It's South Florida. What did they expect? Frost? This is not news. Nor is it news when we have a lot of thunderstorms around and they lead the newscast with "Wicked Weather" or some pretentious bs they make it out to be. Unless there's tornadoes, I don't give a rat's pitooty. :roll:

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