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Will you BouyCott on Laber Day 3 day Weekend?????????

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#21 Postby JamesFromMaine2 » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:21 pm

InimanaChoogamaga wrote:Why is gas high? Blame the Commander in Chief. He's in charge. Things are bad and the Bush administration continues to make them worse. Just give it a week and they will have yet another excuse for high gas prices and the Iraq War.


I have to totally disagree with you here! I voted for Bush as well as over half of the other voters here in the US! and well I may not like some of the things he has done this term I have to agree with the war in Iraq! I believe that following Sept. 11th Bush did the best job that any person in his shoes could have done. Iraq had more then enough time to hide those weapons for all we know the weapons could be in Iran now ( I am not saying they are but they COULD be!) and well I am saddend by the loss of life in Iraq we must stay in Iraq until the Job is finished! If I remember correctly troops raided a factory where they were producing a chemical that could have been used as chemical war fare just the other day! Well thats as much as I am going to say about that for now!
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#22 Postby skufful » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:24 pm

InimanaChoogamaga wrote:
AnthonyC wrote:Dude, don't blame President Bush...it's not his fault. It's our own fault...like people have stated, can't we carpool or use other means of transportation?

But I will say...2.73 a frickin' gallon?! That's ridiculous.

Anthony

PS-How much is gas where you live? Here in Washington, I think the average is 2.63...unfortunately 2.73 where I live.


American drives to excess that's for sure. But Bush is an oil man. And most of the people in the Bush administration have connection to big oil. And they invaded a country that had oil (after lying about why we needed to go there), screwed it up once we got there and now there is not as much oil coming out of Iraq because of the bloody insurgency -- in fact Iraqis wait in line for gasoline themselves. Plus, to pay for the war we are borrowing billions from China and helping to boost China's economy at the same time. China's success is also increasing the demand for oil which also helps rise the cost of our gasoline.


It is not a TRUE supply problem!!!!! OPEC artificially controls their supply!!!!!!!! Raising costs!!!!!!
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#23 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:26 pm

OFFICIAL WARNING!!!!

KEEP THE POLITICS OUT OF THIS POLL/DISCUSSION or it will be removed from the board.
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#24 Postby Typhoon_Willie » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:32 pm

Here is a related link concerning experimental cars that can get up to 250 miles per gallon. Some say that is decades away. But not so for this one engineer! That car is parked in his garage!:D

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Hybrid ... SFeeds0312
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#25 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:52 pm

Boycotting gas stations does no good because your going to have to buy it sooner or later... I've heard this tired old scenario several times now.
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#26 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:53 pm

InimanaChoogamaga wrote:We could all drive Smart Cars. They are so small that lions at a safari park in England confused them as prey. :lol:

http://tinyurl.com/dj3ng


Sure... and you'll be smashed to pieces when you collide with a big vehicle(which in this case would be every car) LOL :lol:
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#27 Postby coriolis » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:28 am

Don't forget the reality of inflation. If gas cost $1.25 in 1980, (That's a guess), with 3% annual inflation, it would theoretically cost $2.61 now. If there's anything to complain about, it would be that prices were kept artificially LOW for many years, by simply pumping oil faster and faster, to keep us hooked on cheap oil, thereby delaying the inevitable cost increases, and delaying our R&D into conservation and alternatives.
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#28 Postby gtalum » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:46 am

These stupid one day or weekend boycotts are completely ineffective. They are organized frequently, and don't work. They wouldn't work even if everyone participated. Everyone who chooses to do it will just fill up that Friday, and fill up again on the Monday. net effect? Zero.

The better choice is to make yoru driving more efficient. Drive fewer miles and/or drive a more fuel-efficient vehicle.

Push for alternative forms of energy.

As for buying oil only from companies that don't buy from OPEC:

Oil is bought and sold on a truly global market. It doesn't matter where the oil you buy actually came from, it affects the price of oil all over the world. Even worse, the station where you buy your oil most likely doesn't even use the advertised company's oil most of the time. For instance, here in Southwest Florida, we get all of our oil from the Citgo terminal at teh Port of Tampa. Every truck delivering in the area fills up from the same fuel terminal at the Port, where a Citgo tanker fills the tanks. So it doesn't matetr if you're buying from a Shell station, a Hess station, or a BP station, you're getting Citgo fuel.
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#29 Postby gtalum » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:48 am

skufful wrote:It is not a TRUE supply problem!!!!! OPEC artificially controls their supply!!!!!!!! Raising costs!!!!!!


News flash: OPEC lost control of the global oil market years ago. They only control a small portion of it. Second news flash: we get more oil from Canada than any other nation.

Correction: We buy more oil from Mxico than any other nation. Canada is second.

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#30 Postby beachbum_al » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:48 am

Sure because I am not going anywhere anyway.
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#31 Postby beachbum_al » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:51 am

Referring to the smart cars. Okay please tell me where I am going to get two booster seats and one full size car seat in that tiny car. On top of the roof? It doesn't look that big?
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#32 Postby gtalum » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:56 am

Then buy a hybrid Civic or a VW diesel. :) Roomy enough, and safe.
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#33 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:04 am

gtalum, diesel is just as high as gasoline.
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#34 Postby gtalum » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:07 am

Lindaloo wrote:gtalum, diesel is just as high as gasoline.


Yeah but you burn less of it. ;)

My wife's Passat diesel gets 40 mpg. The Jetta gets 50! :)
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#35 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:33 am

That is great. But, what about truckers, wreckers and car haulers? They are the ones who deliver supplies and pick up those Passats when they break down. IMO, truckers need to go on strike.
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#36 Postby gtalum » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:36 am

Lindaloo wrote:That is great. But, what about truckers, wreckers and car haulers? They are the ones who deliver supplies and pick up those Passats when they break down. IMO, truckers need to go on strike.


Truckers going on strike accomplishes nothing. It will just drive up the price of goods and services more. Actually it will drive up the cost of fuel, since trucks deliver fuel to the stations.
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#37 Postby gtalum » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:38 am

Hopefully one big change that this oil situation may cause is a revitalization of the nation's railways. Our reliance on trucks is much too high. Trains are more efficient, and they're safer when the track is properly maintained. It would have the beneficial side effect of getting many of the trucks off the road, unclogging many of our nation's highways. In addition to a savings of time, fewer traffic jams also means lower fuel consumption.
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#38 Postby Lindaloo » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:40 am

gtalum wrote:Hopefully one big change that this oil situation may cause is a revitalization of the nation's railways. Our reliance on trucks is much too high. Trains are more efficient, and they're safer when the track is properly maintained. It would have the beneficial side effect of getting many of the trucks off the road, unclogging many of our nation's highways. In addition to a savings of time, fewer traffic jams also means lower fuel consumption.


By this theory, thousands upon thousands will be out of jobs.
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#39 Postby gtalum » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:45 am

Lindaloo wrote:By this theory, thousands upon thousands will be out of jobs.


It's not good to maintain inefficiency just to keep jobs. They'll find something else to do. People always do when they get bumped out of their jobs by progress. If we'd had that attitude throughout the last century, we'd still be a backward agrarian nation.
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#40 Postby feederband » Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:03 am

InimanaChoogamaga wrote:
AnthonyC wrote:Dude, don't blame President Bush...it's not his fault. It's our own fault...like people have stated, can't we carpool or use other means of transportation?

But I will say...2.73 a frickin' gallon?! That's ridiculous.

Anthony

PS-How much is gas where you live? Here in Washington, I think the average is 2.63...unfortunately 2.73 where I live.


American drives to excess that's for sure. But Bush is an oil man. And most of the people in the Bush administration have connection to big oil. And they invaded a country that had oil (after lying about why we needed to go there), screwed it up once we got there and now there is not as much oil coming out of Iraq because of the bloody insurgency -- in fact Iraqis wait in line for gasoline themselves. Plus, to pay for the war we are borrowing billions from China and helping to boost China's economy at the same time. China's success is also increasing the demand for oil which also helps rise the cost of our gasoline.



Its so easy just to say a certain person is the cause of all things... :roll:
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