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#221 Postby MBismyPlayground » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:13 pm

Interesting, the behavior of your animals... last year I noticed Ants and ant hills before we got the later part of Charlie. I don't mean just a few, but TONS of them. Once the storm was gone, so were the ants along with the hills.
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#222 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:14 pm

Believe I've found a tight, rapidly-forming LLC under the flare-up near 21N-75.5


yes but it's moving 270, not long before it would hit Cuba on it's present track...it looks to be "bouncing" N though.
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#223 Postby Frank2 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:15 pm

Re: Sanibel's post

If that's the case, then it would have even more of a chance to cross the Cuban coast if it continues westward (as it appears to be doing).

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#224 Postby Frank2 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:17 pm

Hopefully we'll just get some well-needed rainfall...
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#225 Postby Recurve » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:35 pm

The exploding intensification of the '35 storm from close to this area gives me the willies.

Please don't flame me, I have NO desire to watch this explode, and don't expect it to reach even Cat 1 at this point. But don't turn your back, and you might want to think about filling the tank and making sure you've got some ice in the freezer starting this afternoon if you're on the East coast of Florida. Even a TS can knock out power and make for a bad few days if you're not stocked up.
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#226 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:36 pm

The exploding intensification of the '35 storm from close to this area gives me the willies.

Please don't flame me, I have NO desire to watch this explode, and don't expect it to reach even Cat 1 at this point. But don't turn your back, and you might want to think about filling the tank and making sure you've got some ice in the freezer starting this afternoon if you're on the East coast of Florida. Even a TS can knock out power and make for a bad few days if you're not stocked up.


Agreed.
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#227 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:41 pm

050
WONT41 KNHC 231837
DSAAT
SPECIAL TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENT
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
235 PM EDT TUE AUG 23 2005

...TWELFTH TROPICAL DEPRESSION OF THE SEASON FORMING OVER THE
SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS...

RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT DATA AND SURFACE REPORTS INDICATE A TROPICAL
DEPRESSION IS FORMING WITHIN THE DISTURBED WEATHER OVER THE
SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS. THE CENTER OF THE BROAD CIRCULATION IS
ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF LONG ISLAND IN THE
SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS...AND SURFACE WINDS ARE AROUND 35 MPH.
ADVISORIES WILL BE INITIATED ON THIS SYSTEM AT 5 PM EDT.

TROPICAL STORM WATCHES AND/OR WARNINGS WILL LIKELY BE REQUIRED FOR
PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS.

FORECASTER STEWART

$$


here we go ...
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#228 Postby sma10 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:41 pm

Recurve wrote:The exploding intensification of the '35 storm from close to this area gives me the willies.

Please don't flame me, I have NO desire to watch this explode, and don't expect it to reach even Cat 1 at this point. But don't turn your back, and you might want to think about filling the tank and making sure you've got some ice in the freezer starting this afternoon if you're on the East coast of Florida. Even a TS can knock out power and make for a bad few days if you're not stocked up.


Until this system gets into a perfect upper level environment you won't need to fear this scenario.

It looks like a good wind/rain storm for S. Florida on Thursday, but it will have to improve its organization a lot more than it is now to be talking hurricane.
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#229 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:43 pm

Until this system gets into a perfect upper level environment you won't need to fear this scenario.

It looks like a good wind/rain storm for S. Florida on Thursday, but it will have to improve its organization a lot more than it is now to be talking hurricane.


Keep in mind many people including you had it as an open wave moving past FL....now look at it...wouldn't be surprised for rapid strenghtening over the next 24-48 hours...
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#230 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:47 pm

>>That's because most here are under 30 - wait until you get 20 or 30 years older!

I'm over 40 but I still act like a kid when it comes to Hurricane Season. I'm as giddy over a storm threat or snow in New Orleans as I am opening birthday presents. /not ashamed to admit :oops:

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#231 Postby sma10 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:48 pm

boca_chris wrote:
Until this system gets into a perfect upper level environment you won't need to fear this scenario.

It looks like a good wind/rain storm for S. Florida on Thursday, but it will have to improve its organization a lot more than it is now to be talking hurricane.


Keep in mind many people including you had it as an open wave moving past FL....now look at it...wouldn't be surprised for rapid strenghtening over the next 24-48 hours...


That's completely untrue. I never once forecast this to pass Florida as an open wave. Please do not spread falsehoods.
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#232 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:49 pm

Actually I beg to differ. I believe most here are over the age of 30.

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#233 Postby jasons2k » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:51 pm

Galvestongirl wrote:
boca_chris wrote:
Heck yea....My dogs are acting like they are very hyper. Had one try to jump out of the back of the truck on the way to the vet today, put him upfront mid route. And, they are getting out of the fenced yard, in the 2 years I have had them, this has never happened, its like someone gave them something that is making them super active.


What city are you in?

Last year I knew Charley would miss Tampa when I took a drive along the beach the day of the storm and all the birds were basking in the hazy sun (caused by Charley's outflow) as if nothing was going to happen.


I am between houston and galveston, off of I45. These dogs are driving me nuts, if they wernt like my children, I would get rid of them. I dont believe there are any storms this way, but they are acting crazy.


My little yorkie was up all night, normally she sleeps like a baby. This AM she was clawing at the door like she was trying to get out. When I did, she just ran in circles, very strange, she doesn't normally act like that. I'm in TX though.
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#234 Postby jasons2k » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:53 pm

sma10 wrote:
Recurve wrote:The exploding intensification of the '35 storm from close to this area gives me the willies.

Please don't flame me, I have NO desire to watch this explode, and don't expect it to reach even Cat 1 at this point. But don't turn your back, and you might want to think about filling the tank and making sure you've got some ice in the freezer starting this afternoon if you're on the East coast of Florida. Even a TS can knock out power and make for a bad few days if you're not stocked up.


Until this system gets into a perfect upper level environment you won't need to fear this scenario.

It looks like a good wind/rain storm for S. Florida on Thursday, but it will have to improve its organization a lot more than it is now to be talking hurricane.


I wouldn't bank on that. Remember Jose just yesterday??? If it had been over water any longer it would have been a 'cane
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#235 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:54 pm

That's funny you say that, Galveston girl saw similar issues with her pets....?

Anyway, looks like NHC will be forecast a WNW movement or even NW from the special statement:

TROPICAL STORM WATCHES AND/OR WARNINGS WILL LIKELY BE REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS.
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#236 Postby gkrangers » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:55 pm

sma10 wrote:
boca_chris wrote:
Until this system gets into a perfect upper level environment you won't need to fear this scenario.

It looks like a good wind/rain storm for S. Florida on Thursday, but it will have to improve its organization a lot more than it is now to be talking hurricane.


Keep in mind many people including you had it as an open wave moving past FL....now look at it...wouldn't be surprised for rapid strenghtening over the next 24-48 hours...


That's completely untrue. I never once forecast this to pass Florida as an open wave. Please do not spread falsehoods.
Yep, never once did sma10 say that. We both have had Florida being affected by a tropical cyclone, including south Florida. Nothing exceptionally strong, but a cyclone none the less.
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#237 Postby sma10 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:55 pm

jschlitz wrote:
sma10 wrote:
Recurve wrote:The exploding intensification of the '35 storm from close to this area gives me the willies.

Please don't flame me, I have NO desire to watch this explode, and don't expect it to reach even Cat 1 at this point. But don't turn your back, and you might want to think about filling the tank and making sure you've got some ice in the freezer starting this afternoon if you're on the East coast of Florida. Even a TS can knock out power and make for a bad few days if you're not stocked up.


Until this system gets into a perfect upper level environment you won't need to fear this scenario.

It looks like a good wind/rain storm for S. Florida on Thursday, but it will have to improve its organization a lot more than it is now to be talking hurricane.


I wouldn't bank on that. Remember Jose just yesterday??? If it had been over water any longer it would have been a 'cane


Are you suggesting that Td12's upper level envrionment is identical to Jose's?
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#238 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:56 pm

boca_chris wrote:That's funny you say that, Galveston girl saw similar issues with her pets....?

Anyway, looks like NHC will be forecast a WNW movement or even NW from the special statement:

TROPICAL STORM WATCHES AND/OR WARNINGS WILL LIKELY BE REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS.


you are sooo desperate to have it come this way arent you? lol

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#239 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:58 pm

you are sooo desperate to have it come this way arent you? lol


No I'm not by you should be getting somewhat nervous, it has become a TD from nothing in less than 12 hours and it continues to be exploding from the satellite pics....
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#240 Postby Frank2 » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:59 pm

Not necessarily - because of the many many marine interests (and the many on the northern and western islands), it's not unusual for them to be on the safe side to issue watches or warnings, even if the forecast track does not bring the center directly over the area.

I agree with the earlier post - the environment is really not that good at this time, and the system's organization only fair at best, so, hopefully as others mentioned TD12 will only bring us some needed rain (and cooler temps!).

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