Katrina is looking pretty damn good on infrared

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#41 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:25 am

latest long range radar NWS Miami is clearly showing how the tunderstorms are starting to wrap around to the W side of the center. We didn't see this last night due to some dry air influence and shear. If that wrapping completes than this storm will strengthen very rapidly....watch this closely everybody as it is key to the intensity forecast.
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#42 Postby wxwatcher91 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:27 am

HURAKAN wrote:25/1145 UTC 26.2N 79.2W T3.5/3.5 KATRINA -- Atlantic Ocean



GO K@TRIN@!!!!!


T 3.5/3.5 = 63mph 994mb

4.0 is a hurricane!

come on KATRINA
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#43 Postby Patrick99 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:28 am

There are more thunderstorms there than under Katrina herself.

I still haven't seen any measurable rain - I just don't think Katrina is going to amount to much. The pressure doesn't seem to want to drop much.
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#44 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:28 am

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Here goes the rapid intensification that I expected...it was a little late as I thought it would start last night but I predict that it will strengthen rapidly until landfall late tonight along the Broward/Palm Beach line. At least CAT 1 and CAT 2 not out of the question
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#45 Postby WindRunner » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:29 am

Patrick99 wrote:There are more thunderstorms there than under Katrina herself.

I still haven't seen any measurable rain - I just don't think Katrina is going to amount to much. The pressure doesn't seem to want to drop much.


You forgot to say "yet" :D
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#46 Postby Trader Ron » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:29 am

boca_chris wrote:It's strenghtening rapidly now...if it slows or stalls look out but hopefully it will continue a W movement over 5mph....


Chris,

You have been saying this for 24 hrs. The pressure has dropped EIGHT MB in FORTY HOURS. When i see some pressure drops, i will agree with you, that Katrina is finally getting her act together.

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#47 Postby HurricaneGirl » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:30 am

:eek: Holy Crap! :eek:
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#48 Postby cyclone_eye » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:30 am

wxwatcher91 wrote:T 3.5/3.5 = 63mph 994mb

4.0 is a hurricane!

come on KATRINA



NHC in its 8 am update has not increased intensity. Maintains at 50 mph.
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#49 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:31 am

You have been saying this for 24 hrs. The pressure has dropped EIGHT MB in FORTY HOURS. When i see some pressure drops, i will agree with you, that Katrina is finally getting her act together


Yes I will eat crow for that but I expect rapid strengthening today...(I may eat crow for this too) :lol:
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#50 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:32 am

Mostly because they have little or no data(recon)...The t numbers are our best tool with out recon...So for now it is a 3.5. If we can't trust it then why do we trust it over the open Atlantic?

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#51 Postby mascpa » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:37 am

Air Force Met wrote:
wxwatcher91 wrote:
dcuevas wrote:It will be very interesting to see what happens with the wave behind Kat. Any thoughts about after it hits the GOM? I'm don't remember the name of the hurricane that went out and came right back in.. Any thoughts?


In the sunlight the wave behind Katrina has blown up even more convection...

doesnt look very organized though

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Look at the diffluence over the top of it...that's the reason. It's got 80 degrees of divergence and any time you get that much divergence aloft in the tropics...you are going to get a LOT of thuderstorms....even if the sfc convergence is low.


Please excuse my ignorance but what is "diffluence"? I don't recall hearing that word before. Thanks!
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#52 Postby wxwonder12 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:39 am

The news in Palm Beach keeps saying it will come in over the Dade/Broward line, although it looks to me to be more like the Palm Beach/Broward line if not a little farther North. The news also stated that Southern Palm Beach and Central Palm Beach would experience sustained hurricane winds. I am a little confused as to how close to Palm Beach this may be.
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#53 Postby Trader Ron » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:43 am

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Mostly because they have little or no data(recon)...The t numbers are our best tool with out recon...So for now it is a 3.5. If we can't trust it then why do we trust it over the open Atlantic?

:eek:


That's a lot of bunk. :D How about the reports from the Islands? Last night I heard one report of 40 mph winds on one of the Islands.



:lol: :lol:
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#54 Postby wxwatcher91 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:49 am

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#55 Postby skysummit » Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:50 am

Why are we posting NWS radar images? I'm sure everyone knows where they are.
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#56 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:09 am

is it me or does this storm really look to be intensifying as it is just about ready to be over the Gulf stream... :eek:
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#57 Postby wjs3 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:12 am

Diffluence is the spreading out of air. Remember a Hurricane (and other low pressure systems) are places where air comes rushing in at the surface (convergence). All that air has to go somewhere...or the low pressure would quickly become high pressure because all that air "fills it up".

So the low needs a mechanism to get rid of that air rushing in. In the case of a tropical system, it establishes outflow aloft--air that comes into the low goes up and out--diverging--or creating diffluence--aloft.

Divergence aloft alone acts to lower surface pressures--air rushing away aloft means that more air has to converge at the surface to keep things in "balance". So divergence/diffluence aloft means surface pressures are dropping.

Write back if you want more clarification. It's not quite so simple as I've laid out here, but hope it helps.
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#58 Postby wxwatcher91 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:14 am

skysummit wrote:Why are we posting NWS radar images? I'm sure everyone knows where they are.


most people know where to find satellite images, but we post those, dont we?
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#59 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:17 am

I see a drift lately to the WSW...anybody notice this? Maybe just a wobble.
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#60 Postby CronkPSU » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:18 am

skysummit wrote:Why are we posting NWS radar images? I'm sure everyone knows where they are.


speak for yourself, i appreciate it
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