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Not much farther west......

#1 Postby dixiebreeze » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:22 pm

I would guess, judging from this WV image:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/NWATL/WV/20.jpg
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#2 Postby jkt21787 » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:24 pm

Are you saying the turn is about to happen?

Come on, the models are all over this. Its just not gonna happen. This is going to LA/MS in all likelyhood.

NHC mentioned the ridge is much stronger than anticipated and not budging at this time. Due West and occasional WNW wobbles should commence shortly, but we shouldn't see anything true northward for a while longer...IMO of course.
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Re: Not much farther west......

#3 Postby AL Chili Pepper » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:27 pm

dixiebreeze wrote:I would guess, judging from this WV image:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/NWATL/WV/20.jpg


How much is not much?
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#4 Postby Droop12 » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:27 pm

Models were all over a Big Bend landfall for days too...But personally I like Miss. as the prime target at the moment. But who's to say by tomorrow morning the models shift eastward again? Its far to early to say where landfall will occur.
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#5 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:28 pm

Nope. South of due west still. Will continue wsw through the night. High is really strong.
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#6 Postby Ixolib » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:29 pm

Droop12 wrote:Models were all over a Big Bend landfall for days too...But personally I like Miss. as the prime target at the moment. But who's to say by tomorrow morning the models shift eastward again? Its far to early to say where landfall will occur.


Didn't somebody say that the 11pm advisory was the first one to call for a landfall location? If so, the HC might be thinking it's not too early...
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#7 Postby Steve » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:29 pm

Run that loop. I haven't looked at it in a while because my cpu is cluttered with memory issues based on everything I was running. But last I checked, that triangle shaped thing was a high spinning clockwise and not the trof that is expected to turn it north.

I'll have to research though...

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Re: Not much farther west......

#8 Postby rtd2 » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:39 pm

dixiebreeze wrote:I would guess, judging from this WV image:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/NWATL/WV/20.jpg





Interesting....
Katrina is having a hell of a time swatting away that dry air, but I think that this particular aspect of Katrina's development is actually
demonstrating a lot about the position/strength of the high that is currently steering her. Because of the set-up over the GOM right now, I think that Katrina's intensity will be a very accurate
indication of where the high is moving and how strong it is. A band of moisture appears to be slowly overcoming the dry air to the NNE of Katrina, and she looks poised to swallow that in over the next four
hours. This is plainly visible on the color-enhanced IR
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/ ... nhanced+12 This is as clear a demonstration as any that the southeastern periphery of the high is eroding and receding westward.
I think it's the next-best thing to a buoy reading. I believe that this
increased access to moisture associated with the recession of the high will
correspond with rapid deepening of the storm and a gradual but pronounced turn to the right. I'll go ahead and pin an early landfall
prediction on . . . drum roll please .
___________, MS. Intensity? 135 MPH.
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#9 Postby MetroMike » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:40 pm

Do you see that elongated tail
coming off Kat.?
Hurricanes tend to give this signal
that thier trajectory will be where the
tail is pointing.
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#10 Postby Nimbus » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:40 pm

Judging from where the convection is firing near the northern border of Arkansas and Tenessee in the water vapor loop the ridge has not moved west.

Katrina is still sinking west south west so the models may start discounting the effects of the trough in the morning runs.


Not looking good for Texas and western LA.
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#11 Postby Stratosphere747 » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:44 pm

Nimbus wrote:Judging from where the convection is firing near the northern border of Arkansas and Tenessee in the water vapor loop the ridge has not moved west.

Katrina is still sinking west south west so the models may start discounting the effects of the trough in the morning runs.


Not looking good for Texas and western LA.


Nimbus... You may be on to something..

I still have faith in what the NHC and pros see, but this continued WSW motion is starting to make me take more notice from a "Texan" standpoint.
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#12 Postby rtd2 » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:47 pm

MetroMike wrote:Do you see that elongated tail
coming off Kat.?
Hurricanes tend to give this signal
that thier trajectory will be where the
tail is pointing.



:D Hey why Didnt I think of that! LOL....Honestly that siunds very Likely! I guess I didnt need all that Info. I posted above ...Just look at the Tail! It says NOLA! ....I still think the High is retreating as I stated above...
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#13 Postby HouTXmetro » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:51 pm

rtd2 wrote:
MetroMike wrote:Do you see that elongated tail
coming off Kat.?
Hurricanes tend to give this signal
that thier trajectory will be where the
tail is pointing.



:D Hey why Didnt I think of that! LOL....Honestly that siunds very Likely! I guess I didnt need all that Info. I posted above ...Just look at the Tail! It says NOLA! ....I still think the High is retreating as I stated above...


I agree, the High is retreating, but it ain't retreating West. It's retreating South and forcing Trina WSW. That's the key
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#14 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:55 pm

Look to the north of Florida and into the Atlantic. There is still northerly flow.That is what is pushing down on Katrina keeping her moving wsw. Look at a floater loop. She has a flattened appearance on her northern side. High still looks in place. Trough not having much affect yet?
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#15 Postby sweetpea » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:07 am

HouTXmetro wrote:
rtd2 wrote:
MetroMike wrote:Do you see that elongated tail
coming off Kat.?
Hurricanes tend to give this signal
that thier trajectory will be where the
tail is pointing.



:D Hey why Didnt I think of that! LOL....Honestly that siunds very Likely! I guess I didnt need all that Info. I posted above ...Just look at the Tail! It says NOLA! ....I still think the High is retreating as I stated above...


I agree, the High is retreating, but it ain't retreating West. It's retreating South and forcing Trina WSW. That's the key


So what does this mean? A texas hit?
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#16 Postby HouTXmetro » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:14 am

sweetpea wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:
rtd2 wrote:
MetroMike wrote:Do you see that elongated tail
coming off Kat.?
Hurricanes tend to give this signal
that thier trajectory will be where the
tail is pointing.



:D Hey why Didnt I think of that! LOL....Honestly that siunds very Likely! I guess I didnt need all that Info. I posted above ...Just look at the Tail! It says NOLA! ....I still think the High is retreating as I stated above...


I agree, the High is retreating, but it ain't retreating West. It's retreating South and forcing Trina WSW. That's the key


So what does this mean? A texas hit?[/quote

Not really, She would have to pick up speed on the WSW heading. I do think the H is getting weaker but I'm not sold on it being week enough to create weakness for Katrina to move through just yet.

I'm no expert so you might want to check with the NHC
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#17 Postby wxmann_91 » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:42 am

Yes it will not move more westward because it will move southward and stall over Cuba, and then dissipate over the mountains of Cuba. :eek:

THIS IS NOT BASED ON ANY METEOROLOGICAL DATA AND IN FACT IT IS JUST A JOKE.
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#18 Postby Anonymous » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:44 am

Some people may actually want it to turn towards them.
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#19 Postby Ixolib » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:46 am

~Floydbuster wrote:Some people may actually want it to turn towards them.


Is NHCWX up? If so, what's the link - sorry, lost it....
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#20 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:46 am

~Floydbuster wrote:Some people may actually want it to turn towards them.


Why would ANYONE want this to come their way?!?!?!?!?
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