Pressure still dropping, NOW Speeding up forward speed

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Pressure still dropping, NOW Speeding up forward speed

#1 Postby Tommedic » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:57 am

Now forward speed at 12 mph, LESS TIME for people to evacuate. Pressure still dropping. Down to 908, How powerful will she get?
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#2 Postby Scorpion » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:58 am

I shall call 897 mb.
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#3 Postby aerojad » Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:59 am

I don't think it matters any more. We've gotten to the point where anything more is salt in the wounds.
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#4 Postby Tommedic » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:02 am

aerojad wrote:I don't think it matters any more. We've gotten to the point where anything more is salt in the wounds.


I concur totally. The son of a former classmate is scheduled to stay in NO as he is a police officer. We can all pray for them all (Law, Fire, & EMS)
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#5 Postby drudd1 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:04 am

Correct me if I am wrong, but it appears the only cane that Katrina now has to beat pressure wise was the 1935 storm that hit the keys. That beast had a pressure of 885.
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#6 Postby linkerweather » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:12 am

Florida keys landfall pressure was 892

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastint.shtml
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#7 Postby drudd1 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:15 am

linkerweather wrote:Florida keys landfall pressure was 892

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastint.shtml


Oops, you are right.
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#8 Postby canegrl04 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:15 am

Camille hit with 170mph winds .I can't imagine Katrina getting that strong,but anything is possible at this point.But it really doesn't matter.Anyone who bares the brunt of Katrina is going to lose their home :(
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#9 Postby timNms » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:35 am

canegrl04 wrote:Camille hit with 170mph winds .I can't imagine Katrina getting that strong,but anything is possible at this point.But it really doesn't matter.Anyone who bares the brunt of Katrina is going to lose their home :(


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read on the NHC's advisories that Camille, at landfall had a pressure of 905 and winds of 190. I'll have to try to dig up those old advisories. used to have the link, but lost it.
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#10 Postby mtm4319 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:41 am

timNms wrote:
canegrl04 wrote:Camille hit with 170mph winds .I can't imagine Katrina getting that strong,but anything is possible at this point.But it really doesn't matter.Anyone who bares the brunt of Katrina is going to lose their home :(


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I read on the NHC's advisories that Camille, at landfall had a pressure of 905 and winds of 190. I'll have to try to dig up those old advisories. used to have the link, but lost it.


[img]ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/pub/storm_archives/atlantic/prelimat/atl1969/camille/prelim21.gif[/img]

26.61 inches.
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#11 Postby canegrl04 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:41 am

You're right . I thought it was 170mph with 200 mph gusts
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Why no mandatory evac for New Orleans

#12 Postby k3839 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:56 am

I don't completely understand the legal issues with calling for a mandatory evac of New Orleans. I can't believe that the mayor is willing to risk so many lives to guard against liablilty. Why hasn't the National Guard been called in to help?
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Re: Why no mandatory evac for New Orleans

#13 Postby cjrciadt » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:58 am

k3839 wrote:I don't completely understand the legal issues with calling for a mandatory evac of New Orleans. I can't believe that the mayor is willing to risk so many lives to guard against liablilty. Why hasn't the National Guard been called in to help?

Estimated 100,000 does not have trans. to leave, bring the National Guard to take as many as they can!!!!
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#14 Postby WindRunner » Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:58 am

Official reports would have Katrina being second strongest to make US landfall at this pressure per http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastint.shtml

Overall, though, I can't find the list of minimum pressures. If someone knows where to find that, a posting would be appreciated.
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#15 Postby jacindc » Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:46 am

Here are the lowest minimum pressures:

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/E12.html
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National Guard

#16 Postby MzShell » Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:55 am

As far as calling the national guard, I heard that Louisianna's senator stated, on the news, that approx 3000 of their national guardsmen were over seas, in the war. Dont know if they even have the resources for that. But they definitely would need the NG to help with evacuations.
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#17 Postby JQ Public » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:14 am

The National Guards in Iraq. Everyone is saying this will be a direct hit on N.O., but not really? I guess thats why they are not risking the mass evacuation b/c people should have gotten out by now.
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#18 Postby goodlife » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:21 am

well..they can't FORCE people to leave their homes...as Walter Maestri said early this morning....since they don't have that kind of authority...a mandatory evac is kinda pointless anyway since they can't enforce it.
BUT...it's the mindset....the voluntary stuff sends a message to people that it's ok to stay.
I am so freaked about what will happen to the city....much less worried about what will happen here on the northshore....
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#19 Postby Mello1 » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:26 am

canegrl04 wrote:Camille hit with 170mph winds .I can't imagine Katrina getting that strong,but anything is possible at this point.But it really doesn't matter.Anyone who bares the brunt of Katrina is going to lose their home :(

I can. It's at 160 now and the 908 pressure reading does not reflect the current wind speed. It will probably be in the next advisory. The question here is will she be sustained at Cat 5? Given her annular shape, I say that it's possible unless that dry patch of air can get into it. We are in watch and see mode right now...
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#20 Postby MzShell » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:28 am

I know right? It's too bad they wont take bus loads of people who cant leave, to the Superdome. They'd probably be better off there than in their homes.
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