Mayor Nagin: 80% of NO Underwater

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#21 Postby CajunMama » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:58 am

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btangy wrote:For someone unfamiliar with the area, where and what road/freeway is the Twin Span Bridge?


The twin span is the I-10 section connecting Metro NOLA to Slidell.


I have to correct you Stratosphere.

The Twin Span Bridge is also called the Crescent City Connection that connects New Orleans and the Westbank. quote]

Uhhh, the twin span IS the I-10 bridge from NOLA to Slidell crossing eastern Lake Pontchartrain.


I'm sorry...i googled it and that's what i got. Outside of NO we call it the Causeway. I corrected part of my error...i apologize for any misinformation.
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#22 Postby MomH » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:00 am

In the locked post some were saying they could not hear sooooo--
I'll do my best to tell you who can not hear it some of what he said.
Some of this is a repeat of former posts.

FEMA reports that 80% of NO is underwater.

The Twin Spans have been completly distroyed.

I10 is underwater at the low point most residents know about. The pumps to clear the water there have burnt up and need replaced. He wasn't certain about Hiway 11 and whether it was open. [Isn't I10 East of Mobile closed? If so, NO isn't essentially land locked?]

Pumping is going on but not really helping because of the 2 block break in the levy which is still spilling water into NO. Several stations need pumps repaired or replaced.

The police are currently concentrating on rescue operations. Retrieval of the dead and dealing with looters will wait until rescue is near finished.

At least one oil barge/taker broken loose and spilling oil.

IT WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 4 TO 6 WEEKS BEFORE ELECTRICITY IS RESTORED. And - that can't begin until water is cleared.

With a couple of exceptions the water sources have been compremised. Water should be boiled in most places.

Evacuees--do not try to come home right now. Wait until the word is put out that it is safe to do so.

It is basically going to be a long hard haul---my words not his.

MomH
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#23 Postby superfly » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:00 am

CajunMama wrote:
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btangy wrote:For someone unfamiliar with the area, where and what road/freeway is the Twin Span Bridge?


The twin span is the I-10 section connecting Metro NOLA to Slidell.


I have to correct you Stratosphere.

The Twin Span Bridge is also called the Crescent City Connection that connects New Orleans and the Westbank. quote]

Uhhh, the twin span IS the I-10 bridge from NOLA to Slidell crossing eastern Lake Pontchartrain.


I'm sorry...i googled it and that's what i got. Outside of NO we call it the Causeway. I corrected part of my error...i apologize for any misinformation.


The Causeway is a whole different bridge. The causeway connects NOLA to the Northshore (mandeville, Covington) across central L.Pont. The twin spans connect NO East to Slidell across eastern L.Pont.
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#24 Postby Mobile Expat » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:01 am

Ok, I'm completely confused now. Is the Twin Span the I-10 bridge that goes over Lake Ponch or the Hwy 90 bridge that goes over the Mississippi?
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#25 Postby TSmith274 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:08 am

Mobile Expat wrote:Ok, I'm completely confused now. Is the Twin Span the I-10 bridge that goes over Lake Ponch or the Hwy 90 bridge that goes over the Mississippi?

The Hwy 90 bridges that go over the Mississippi are called the "Crescent City Connection". This connects the east bank to the west bank at downtown.

The Causeway, also the world's longest bridge, crosses Lake Ponchartrain north/south to the N Shore of Lake Ponchartrain.

The Twin Span was the I-10 bridge connecting eastern New Orleans to Slidell, a suburb to the east of N.O.
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#26 Postby CajunMama » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:10 am

IGNORE all my posts in here! I was in error (and i even admit it :wink: )
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#27 Postby superfly » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:12 am

Mobile Expat wrote:Ok, I'm completely confused now. Is the Twin Span the I-10 bridge that goes over Lake Ponch or the Hwy 90 bridge that goes over the Mississippi?


Sorry I can't crop it, I only have MS Paint on this comp.

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#28 Postby Mobile Expat » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:20 am

Nagin said the in the interview the "entire 12 miles" of the Twin Span was gone. So the entire section of I-10 over the lake is gone, huh? Wow.

Add in the damaged bridge over in P-cola, and I-10 is taking a beating.
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#29 Postby wlfpack81 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:24 am

Thanks for that map. Clears things up. "Twin Span" took the brunt of the initial surge of Gulf water flooding into the lake so no surprise it may have totally gone under. I have a feeling the Causeway will have damage too. Can't see how it won't.
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#30 Postby Stratosphere747 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:26 am

This is startling...

Tulane University Medical center is reporting that water is rising 1inch every 5min..

In touch with FEMA to fully evacuate..
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#31 Postby NorthGaWeather » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:29 am

Woman from Tulane is saying the water is rising so fast its amazing.
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#32 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:30 am

One inch every 5 minutes. That adds up...If it keeps going up it could cover the whole city.

1 inch 5 minute...12 inches/foot per hour.

24 foot per day...

In which is more then enough to cover the whole city. This is getting worst by the minute. The people that lived through this is going to find out a unwelcome surprize.
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Re: More key points from Nagin interview

#33 Postby oneness » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:31 am

Mobile Expat wrote:More key points from Nagin interview:

*No power for four to six weeks



Actually, what he said was no power for four to six weeks, minimum, and he emphasised the word minimum.

Add to the list non-functional hospitals.
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#34 Postby Mobile Expat » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:32 am

Somebody needs to tell the national media how bad things are in New Orleans. Here's the story for tomorrow's New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/natio ... leans.html

The headline: "Escaping Feared Knockout Punch,Barely, New Orleans Is One Lucky Big Mess"

Judging from the story, the reporter didn't venture far outside of the Quarter or the central business district before filing his story, or talk to anyone who had. And he obviously didn't talk to Mayor Nagin, who reels off the city's myriad woes like a weary Biblibal prophet in that TV interview.
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#35 Postby TSmith274 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:33 am

This is unbelievable. Canal St. is a river of water right now according to that report. This is downtown N.O. Water reaching top of first floor. The French Quarter will now flood. I don't know what to say.
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#36 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:34 am

With a 2 block long break in the levee two blocks from the hospital this is unfortunately not surprising. The woman at TU hospital says the breach is at 17th and Canal from Lake Ponchatrain and has been confirmed to her by state police. It is incredibly unfortunate that there is no way to control that much water. Massive aid and Massive prayers are needed for everyone in NO and along the MS Gulf coast.
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#37 Postby superfly » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:36 am

vbhoutex wrote:With a 2 block long break in the levee two blocks from the hospital this is unfortunately not surprising. The woman at TU hospital says the breach is at 17th and Canal from Lake Ponchatrain and has been confirmed to her by state police. It is incredibly unfortunate that there is no way to control that much water. Massive aid and Massive prayers are needed for everyone in NO and along the MS Gulf coast.


There is no 17th street in New Orleans. The WATERWAY is CALLED the 17th street canal. It is no street intersection. The 17th street canal is also not by downtown. It is the border between Orleans and Jefferson Parish in the northwestern portion of Orleans Parish. It is rather surprising that the water is flooding into downtown because it is pretty far away.
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#38 Postby Tri-State_1925 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:44 am

Not only did you have the typical baffoons on the board this morning claiming that the Gulf had dodged a bullet, but you even had government officials and the media saying this as well. And this all was being said BEFORE the storm had even made landfall. I couldn't believe it. This storm was being almost written off as overhyped just because it was weakening slightly and heading just east of NO. This was a large 135-145 mph storm. Just because it doesn't have the winds of Andrew or Camille doesn't mean the devastation can't be just as severe.
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#39 Postby oneness » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:44 am

As with all major hurricanes, the following days are far worse and more lethal than the storm itself. This one’s progression will be a lot more grievous than most.

Some of the media 'sources' need to completely shut-up with their fairytales and imaginative guesswork and just report unvarnished facts as they learn them, or I expect a lot more people will die or suffer terribly for longer, as it will take longer to get the mass attention it requires right now.
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#40 Postby weatherSnoop » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:47 am

FNN is interviewing someone now explaining how NO dodged the Bullet! So much for up to date news!...Double Barrel shotgun, second shell now being fired at the Big Easy!
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