CNN 1000-2000 New Orleans death toll

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CNN 1000-2000 New Orleans death toll

#1 Postby logybogy » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:09 am

Not confirmed. But it was just reported on CNN that this is the estimate.
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#2 Postby djtil » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:16 am

you mean the camerman saying 1-2k "casualties"....he was referring to number needing rescued.
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#3 Postby NorthGaWeather » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:22 am

djtil wrote:you mean the camerman saying 1-2k "casualties"....he was referring to number needing rescued.


No he wasn't. Do you know what the definition of casualty is? Obviously not. I've only heard the word casualty used when someone is injured or dead.

ca·su·al·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kzh-l-t)
n. pl. ca·su·al·ties
An accident, especially one involving serious injury or loss of life.
One injured or killed in an accident: a train wreck with many casualties.
One injured, killed, captured, or missing in action through engagement with an enemy. Often used in the plural: Battlefield casualties were high.
One that is harmed or eliminated as a result of an action or a circumstance: The corner grocery was a casualty of the expanding supermarkets

http://dictionary.reference.com
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#4 Postby Fego » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:25 am

Wow.. I'm stunned. You didn't have to answer in that way. You went too far...
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#5 Postby gunner1551 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:28 am

IMO that estimate is not a bit exaggerated. The death toll from this will be staggering IMO. I hope that I am completly and utterly wrong in this case. I really do.. Tommorow we will all witteness the distruction of this storm. The worst places will be accessed and they might not find anything. A casualty means death. The numbers might be lowered when the final toll is tallied. I sure hope so
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#6 Postby temujin » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:30 am

I believe the estimate is too low. I think we are looking at a death toll of ten to twenty thousand from this hurricane.
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#7 Postby wayoutfront » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:45 am

You have to think this is going to be a very long term event. I think in the end ... Heat stress, and disease will be the biggest killer
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#8 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:49 am

temujin wrote:I believe the estimate is too low. I think we are looking at a death toll of ten to twenty thousand from this hurricane.


I doubt it will be that high, but a toll over 1,000 would not surprise me, especially with the levee breaks in NO and no way to warn people about them with no electricity anywhere unless you are on a generator.
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#9 Postby temujin » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:53 am

vbhoutex wrote:
temujin wrote:I believe the estimate is too low. I think we are looking at a death toll of ten to twenty thousand from this hurricane.


I doubt it will be that high, but a toll over 1,000 would not surprise me, especially with the levee breaks in NO and no way to warn people about them with no electricity anywhere unless you are on a generator.



I'm making guesses based on previous Red Cross estimates of what the doomsday scenario would do (25k-100k) and the causulty rate during the Galveston hurricane (21%).

I think the causulties will be lower than previous estimates because people did get out in large numbers, and many who stayed got to high ground. Also, the wind damage wasn't as great as predicted. But never the less, 20% of 385,000 people stayed behind in Orleans parish alone, and floods kill.
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#10 Postby Deb321 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:55 am

I would not be surprised if the number of deaths is high. In GulfPort they know of at least 50 dead and that is probably just the beginning there. the govenor of Mississippi is concerned because alot of people didn't evacuate

There is a good video at hurricanetrak of GulfPort if you haven't seen it
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#11 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:55 am

where is the location of the breach ? I am trying to find it on google however I am unable to do so....
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#12 Postby terstorm1012 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:23 am

Any word from Bay Saint Louis, Pass Christian?
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#13 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:23 am

southfloridawx2005 wrote:where is the location of the breach ? I am trying to find it on google however I am unable to do so....


Two block long breach of the levee near the New Orleans Business District, by the 17th Street Canal.

It's flooding badly and this is just the start. Remember, we still haven't seen anything conclusive from SW Mississippi yet.
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#14 Postby wxwatcher91 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:21 am

are the deaths caused from tornadoes spawned by the hurricane included in the official count? and then what about after the hurricane? does the count include all the disease to follow?

I havent seen anything on Cnn.com about 1000 to 2000... I believe the count online is at 65...

any damage estimates yet?
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#15 Postby GalvestonDuck » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:34 am

It's not like we're proud of carrying the title of "site of the deadliest natural disaster in US history." But I hope that nothing ever surpasses the 1900 Storm in terms of the number dead. I pray that many of those who stay behind survived by vertical evacuation or some other miraculous means.
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#16 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:37 am

CNN just reported a 22 foot surge at Bay st Louis with very little remaining
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#17 Postby Brent » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:50 am

Deb321 wrote:I would not be surprised if the number of deaths is high. In GulfPort they know of at least 50 dead and that is probably just the beginning there. the govenor of Mississippi is concerned because alot of people didn't evacuate


MSNBC is reporting 30 of the dead were in a Biloxi apartment complex that collapsed...
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#18 Postby canegrl04 » Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:56 am

Matt Lauer called this "our tsunami" . I think hes right. I've got a terrible feeling that when its all said and done,over 1,000 will have died :cry:
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#19 Postby smashmode » Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:01 am

Derek Ortt wrote:CNN just reported a 22 foot surge at Bay st Louis with very little remaining


Bay st Louis is a fairly large town.
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#20 Postby superfly » Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:04 am

johngaltfla wrote:
southfloridawx2005 wrote:where is the location of the breach ? I am trying to find it on google however I am unable to do so....


Two block long breach of the levee near the New Orleans Business District, by the 17th Street Canal.

It's flooding badly and this is just the start. Remember, we still haven't seen anything conclusive from SW Mississippi yet.


The 17th street canal is nowhere near the business district. The breach is 5-6 miles from downtown in the very northwestern corner of Orleans Parish so if you think the flooding in the CBD is bad, imagine the residency zones actually near the breach.
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