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#41 Postby jkt21787 » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:31 pm

NastyCat4 wrote:Greek alphabet storms are -removed-

When many credible organizations and experts, including Dr. Gray and NWS/NHC, are forecasting 18-21 storms, its not far off to say that Alpha could happen. Is it Likely? No. But it may happen depending truly on how this month evolves.

Also another point of your post....No one is getting people agitated for no reason. There is no hyping in this thread. Discussing a possibility of reaching Alpha is not senseless. The folks talking about reaching Omega and the like are just playing around, at least I hope. :wink:

Also, in regards to 94L being a "weak tropical depression", I would talk to Don Sutherland. He has had an incredible year and his currents thoughts on the system would seem to disagree with you.
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#42 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:33 pm

NastyCat4 wrote:94L will probably be a weak tropical depression, and bring T-storms to Florida as usual. The others are not a threat to land, in all likelihood. As regards peak of the season, it is far more staistically likely that we are a month ahead of schedule in both beginning and ending the season. Greek alphabet storms are -removed-, and extremely unlikely. Figure it will be like 1995, and stop getting folks agitated for no reason. Some people read the threads and freak out with extreme reactions, when they aren't called for>

We had our disaster for 2005, and her name was Katrina.


Anyone who freaks out hasn't seen the storm2k disclaimer...
also no one is panicing

You give no evidence at all for your claims that greek alphabet storms
are not going to happen.
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#43 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:34 pm

To say that I am making ppl panic is a preposterous accusation.
People should be concerned though and vigilant.
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#44 Postby ChaserUK » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:35 pm

scostorms wrote:Hurricane Alpha would have that "Biblical" ring to it. The Alpha and Omega, first and last is he.

That just seems to odd, I just get the feeling it would be some massive hurricane like "The Alpha" (the beginning... beginning of what!.

I don't know how to explain it, but I am pretty sure everyone see's the point.


Yep thats it - thats what I was thinking.

Hope its totally wrong of course. Just a play on names I guess.
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#45 Postby scostorms » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:36 pm

Quite frankly, I am almost becomming tired of hearing stop talking about hurricanes, Katrina was so bad! Sure, Katrina was bad, but heck can we stop the bashing of don't talk about hurricanes! Not talking about it wont stop hurricanes from forming. Those who were affected, and those who weren't, understand the scope of what Katrina did, but we will continue to talk about more tropical weather whether a few members like it or not. If Katrina was such a bad storm, then why continue talking about her?
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#46 Postby f5 » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:38 pm

scostorms wrote:Hurricane Alpha would have that "Biblical" ring to it. The Alpha and Omega, first and last is he.

That just seems to odd, I just get the feeling it would be some massive hurricane like "The Alpha" (the beginning... beginning of what!.

I don't know how to explain it, but I am pretty sure everyone see's the point.


alpha is the Beginning and Omega is the end watch out these storms sound like a Cat 10 which is unheard of but God contorls the weather you never know.I heard of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse but what about the four canes.you know the ones that make landfall in NYC,Tokyo,Los Angles,Hong Kong.Think of the economic impact that would have
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#47 Postby NastyCat4 » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:40 pm

Also, in regards to 94L being a "weak tropical depression", I would talk to Don Sutherland. He has had an incredible year and his currents thoughts on the system would seem to disagree with you.


A great year? He forecast Katrina to be a 95 MPH storm in the big bend area. Derek Ortt has had a 'great year.' He forecasted New Orleans before anyone else went out on a limb to do so. He favored evacs of NOLA long before the experts did, and didn't buy the "right hook" theory that everybody else was expousing.
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#48 Postby jkt21787 » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:41 pm

f5 wrote:
scostorms wrote:Hurricane Alpha would have that "Biblical" ring to it. The Alpha and Omega, first and last is he.

That just seems to odd, I just get the feeling it would be some massive hurricane like "The Alpha" (the beginning... beginning of what!.

I don't know how to explain it, but I am pretty sure everyone see's the point.


alpha is the Beginning and Omega is the end watch out these storms sound like a Cat 10 which is unheard of but God contorls the weather you never know.I heard of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse but what about the four canes.you know the ones that make landfall in NYC,Tokyo,Los Angles,Hong Kong.Think of the economic impact that would have

OK, no offense to you, but this is the first post I've seen where I would agree with NastyCat4's thinking. Not sure if you're joking or not, but that is being a bit "panicky" and unfounded with your thinking. Not necessary in a discussion about current tropical systems, IMHO.
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#49 Postby Brent » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:42 pm

f5 wrote:
scostorms wrote:Hurricane Alpha would have that "Biblical" ring to it. The Alpha and Omega, first and last is he.

That just seems to odd, I just get the feeling it would be some massive hurricane like "The Alpha" (the beginning... beginning of what!.

I don't know how to explain it, but I am pretty sure everyone see's the point.


alpha is the Beginning and Omega is the end watch out these storms sound like a Cat 10 which is unheard of but God contorls the weather you never know.I heard of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse but what about the four canes.you know the ones that make landfall in NYC,Tokyo,Los Angles,Hong Kong.Think of the economic impact that would have


OK... what are you smoking? :lol:
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#50 Postby jkt21787 » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:43 pm

NastyCat4 wrote:
Also, in regards to 94L being a "weak tropical depression", I would talk to Don Sutherland. He has had an incredible year and his currents thoughts on the system would seem to disagree with you.


A great year? He forecast Katrina to be a 95 MPH storm in the big bend area. Derek Ortt has had a 'great year.' He forecasted New Orleans before anyone else went out on a limb to do so. He favored evacs of NOLA long before the experts did, and didn't buy the "right hook" theory that everybody else was expousing.

With the exception of Katrina, though it was not awful with his forecasting, Don has done great.

I bet about 99% of Storm2K would disagree with your criticism of Don Sutherland so obvious in that post. No offense to Derek though, because he did have a great forecast on Katrina.
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#51 Postby ChaserUK » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:43 pm

Hurricanes seem to be a rather more emotive subject now post Katrina. I know that because people at work ask me every day for updates and information about any other storms that might develop.

Katrina has been a life changing event for all of us.
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#52 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:53 pm

vacanechaser wrote:Here is to all you folks who said that the season was dead!!!

:talk to the hand: :moon2:


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perhaps it was just wishful thinking on our part that it was dead. :cry: :cry:

but I've stopped watching the news, just not worth the pain.
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#53 Postby ChaserUK » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:57 pm

oddly I have been watching Fox since last Sunday - not watched the BBC at all. Not even watched any other TV. As soon as I wake up Fox, the as I am going to sleep Fox.

I just feel closer to you guys and the pain you are feeling that way. After all I am mad enough to chase these things. Looks like I will be coming over to help out over the coming weeks too.
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#54 Postby scostorms » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:03 pm

I have been watching CNN since the hurricane coverage began. Only when programming ends do I change the channel.
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#55 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:03 pm

NastyCat4 wrote:Gross exaggeration here--lucky if even one or two of these even becomes a threat to land. The peak of the season has already occurred. This season began early, and will end early. Let's not panic over things before they are even issues.


I agree with NastyCat4. 2 of these are obviously going out to sea, and we don't know if the one by Florida will develop into anything other than a depression or strong tropical storm, and we don't know if the 92 wave or the one just emerging off of Africa will amount to anything.

I've seen this lots of times over the years during the peak, lots of areas of disturbed weather with POTENTIAL for development. Even though canes can form in October or even in November, it does tend to calm down alot after September, so let's hope for a quick 3 weeks to end this month!!!
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#56 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:13 pm

scostorms wrote:I have been watching CNN since the hurricane coverage began. Only when programming ends do I change the channel.



doesn't that depress ya though? I just can't stomach it.

anyway, back to the topic at hand. Even though I think that most of these systems will go out to sea or be weak in nature, I do believe that we very well can complete the alphabet this year. I mean, we may all the way up to 'R' by sometime next week, so it's very possible.
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#57 Postby gunner1551 » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:14 pm

Brent wrote:
f5 wrote:
scostorms wrote:Hurricane Alpha would have that "Biblical" ring to it. The Alpha and Omega, first and last is he.

That just seems to odd, I just get the feeling it would be some massive hurricane like "The Alpha" (the beginning... beginning of what!.

I don't know how to explain it, but I am pretty sure everyone see's the point.


alpha is the Beginning and Omega is the end watch out these storms sound like a Cat 10 which is unheard of but God contorls the weather you never know.I heard of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse but what about the four canes.you know the ones that make landfall in NYC,Tokyo,Los Angles,Hong Kong.Think of the economic impact that would have


OK... what are you smoking? :lol:


Must be some good stuff lol! :D
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#58 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:14 pm

Well I never tried to inspire panic. Sure some may go out to sea, never said they'd hit land.

While nastycat4 has some points, his accusations are unfounded.
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#59 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:15 pm

f5 wrote:
scostorms wrote:Hurricane Alpha would have that "Biblical" ring to it. The Alpha and Omega, first and last is he.

That just seems to odd, I just get the feeling it would be some massive hurricane like "The Alpha" (the beginning... beginning of what!.

I don't know how to explain it, but I am pretty sure everyone see's the point.


alpha is the Beginning and Omega is the end watch out these storms sound like a Cat 10 which is unheard of but God contorls the weather you never know.I heard of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse but what about the four canes.you know the ones that make landfall in NYC,Tokyo,Los Angles,Hong Kong.Think of the economic impact that would have

I dont think Los Angeles will ever see a hurricane, but the other 3 could happen
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#60 Postby JamesFromMaine2 » Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:49 pm

Ok well I am going to post this and hope no one gets mad! I have been a christian my whole life and I have read reread the book of revelation over and over again! Any one who has any knowledge of the bible and the book of revelation has to agree that everything in that book that was said to happen before Christ's 2nd coming is now in the past few years happening! Even if you don't want to believe it Christ is coming and its just a matter of time! this activity is just going to keep on increasing and theres nothing any of us can do about it! So instead of fighting over it lets just track it and try and save as many lives as we can!
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