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#61 Postby baw_es » Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:26 pm

I am also a pet owner, but I have to agree with Mac. I don’t think he is being insensitive at all. IMO, priorities should people with people and their needs.
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#62 Postby baw_es » Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:41 pm

that being said, given the resources we should try to save the pets, at least for their owners. What are the plans for the future?? National adoption?
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#63 Postby simplykristi » Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:58 pm

There are lot of organizations like petfinder.com, Humane Society of the US, the LA SPCA working to reunite pet owners and their pets.

I refuse to post anymore on this subject because I am a proud pet owner who would do anything to save my pets, who are like my kids.

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#64 Postby Noah » Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:55 pm

I have stated over and over.. This thread is not placing human life over animals.

Cant our animals lovers have a post where they can come and share and get their frustrations and feelings out.

This is not a controversial thread and we are not crossing over into the HUMAN threads giving strong opinions on animal rescue in the middle of the threads.

Please animal friends/owners, do not let small amounts of negative people who thrive on pushing their thoughts other than that of animals here push you away. Stand strong for your beliefs, and we do know that alot is being done now for our beloved pets despite what others think about if they are worthy of rescue.

Hindsight is 20/20 for everyone. The two states effected were not prepared.. (the owners of the animals). They never had something like this before. I assume states as Fl and others that are hit frequent are more prepared as to waht to do with their beloved pets.
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#65 Postby Noah » Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:27 pm

"One woman told me 'I've lost my house, my job, my car and I am not turning my dog loose to starve,'" Kennedy said.

Kennedy said he persuaded refugees to get on the bus by telling them he would have the animals taken to an exhibition center.

The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals picked up two cats and 15 dogs, including one Kennedy found tied up beneath the overpass next to an unopened can of dog food with a sign that read "Please take care of my dog, his name is Chucky."

The fate of pets is a huge but underappreciated cause of anguish for storm survivors, said Richard Garfield, professor of international clinical nursing at New York's Columbia University.

"People in shelters are worried about 'Did Fluffy get out?'" he said. "It's very distressing for people, wondering if their pets are isolated or starving."
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#66 Postby Stephanie » Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:50 pm

Mac wrote:
cristy wrote:This is in response to Mac. You state you are attached to your pets, but many of us are more than attached, we LOVE our pets as if they are our children. This particular forum is for people that want to help out those that sacrificed their lives to stay with their pets. We want those pets to be rescued also. To many of us it is very insensitive to see people film animals in distress and not help. To many of us our pets are like our children and we feel very strong about what is happening. Many residents stayed behind to stay with their beloved pets because they could not take them to the shelter. If you don't agree with these comments, please go to another forum that will talk about other topics. Personally, you sound very insensitive to me. You have a right to feel the way you do, but we certainly have a right to feel the way we do. So please, don't continue upsetting people.
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Wow. I hadn't realized you had opened your own private forum on Storm2K. My deepest apologies. I must have missed the sign on the door.


Mac - you have stated your opinion, which you do have a right do. However, as you can see, the majority of the people here feel otherwise. You made your point, isn't that enough? I for one value EVERY life. I do hope that in the future that shelters are created for those that do have pets to be able to take them with them. I couldn't live with myself if I had to leave my cats and dog.

You also have the right to create YOUR OWN THREAD to state your opinion without monopolizing another one that you clearly do not agree with. Just a suggestion...
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#67 Postby Mac » Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:55 pm

Stephanie wrote:
Mac wrote:
cristy wrote:This is in response to Mac. You state you are attached to your pets, but many of us are more than attached, we LOVE our pets as if they are our children. This particular forum is for people that want to help out those that sacrificed their lives to stay with their pets. We want those pets to be rescued also. To many of us it is very insensitive to see people film animals in distress and not help. To many of us our pets are like our children and we feel very strong about what is happening. Many residents stayed behind to stay with their beloved pets because they could not take them to the shelter. If you don't agree with these comments, please go to another forum that will talk about other topics. Personally, you sound very insensitive to me. You have a right to feel the way you do, but we certainly have a right to feel the way we do. So please, don't continue upsetting people.
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Wow. I hadn't realized you had opened your own private forum on Storm2K. My deepest apologies. I must have missed the sign on the door.


Mac - you have stated your opinion, which you do have a right do. However, as you can see, the majority of the people here feel otherwise. You made your point, isn't that enough? I for one value EVERY life. I do hope that in the future that shelters are created for those that do have pets to be able to take them with them. I couldn't live with myself if I had to leave my cats and dog.

You also have the right to create YOUR OWN THREAD to state your opinion without monopolizing another one that you clearly do not agree with. Just a suggestion...


You have an interesitng definiton of the word "monopolize." I made one comment in a thread expressing my own opinion, and then replied directly to people who addressed me. I wasn't aware that having differing opinions was not allowed here. Thanks for the clarification.
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#68 Postby cristy » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:02 pm

Noah wrote:Please animal friends/owners, do not let small amounts of negative people who thrive on pushing their thoughts other than that of animals here push you away. Stand strong for your beliefs, and we do know that alot is being done now for our beloved pets despite what others think about if they are worthy of rescue.


Well said..... We have to stand strong for our beliefs..... I will continue supporting all the pet lovers and I am writing to all the news media, Government, State, Local, FEMA, National Guard, etc. Our voices need to be heard.... Animals can not help themselves, they need us as their voice. The animal rescue groups are not being allowed inside NO by the National Guard.... There are many reports of dogs on top of trees, on top of roofs dying a very slow death. Just turn on any TV news station and you'll see.... It's heart breaking, it will make you sick. I can not sit back and do nothing. I will do everything in my power to help. Whether is by phone, emails, letters, whatever it takes. I am a human being that loves animals. God put us all in this world and they only have us to protect them. Thanks!
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#69 Postby Terry » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:04 pm

The rescue organizations have to follow the local and state laws, which do vary. But in general they require that the pets be held for a certain number of days in order to try to locate their owners before they can be adopted out.

These organizations also attempt to foster out the rescued pets, especially those with special needs. (That is how I ended up adopting my cat "Charley" last year - she had medical needs, I fostered her, no owner showed up after the legal time period, and I adopted her. :D

Additionally, the various breed organizations can be very good at providing help for specific animals. "Poodle Rescue" etc.

When I worked in the emergency pet shelter in Bartow, FL last year after Hurricane Charley hit, we had dogs coming in that had been tied to trees during the hurricane. They had marks on their necks indicating how hard they had tried to break loose during the hurricane. :cry:

In the Bartow case, I found the rescue organization (EARS from United Animal Nations) to be just superb. These people volunteered their time and came in from all over the US to help. Some locals assisted them. It was a "job" that lasted from around 7 am until 10-11 pm every day to get each animal logged in, photographed, run through a medical check when needed.... all animals feed and watered and cages cleaned once or twice a day, all dogs walked /run at least twice a day. Cats taken out of their cages to pet them. Most farm animals were quickly fostered.

Then along came Hurricane Frances and that sped up the foster process and others were sent to shelters in Tampa, etc. so that all of the pets could be protected form the second hurricane.

Oh, my, it was an unbelievable effort. And that isn't even referring to the "rescue" part of what many of the volunteers are doing in NO, etc. right now. So, PLEASE send your money to the animal rescue organization of your choice! These pets and their owners need our help.
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#70 Postby Stephanie » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:05 pm

No Mac - you're twisting what I'm saying. IF YOU READ what I posted I said that YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO YOUR OWN OPINION. Also, I did mention that you also have the right to create your own thread with an opposing view. What part of that didn't you understand or is it that you have no intention of really understanding or caring what other people are saying in this thread and you're just posting here to antagonize?

I hope THAT clarified a few things for you.
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#71 Postby StormySouthFlorida » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:11 pm

I applaud everyone in this thread who is actively supporting animal rescue organizations. There is no reason we can't help people AND animals get through this tragedy.
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#72 Postby Noah » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:19 pm

Thank you MOD stephanie for coming into our thread for animal rescue and helping keep the topic what it is, animal rescue..NOT wether animals are worthy or less or more than human life. :D
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#73 Postby CajunMama » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:20 pm

Evacuees here in Lafayette are lucky. We knew of a need for a home for displaced pets of evacuees. We have set up a shelter not far from where the evacuees are living. They're able to walk and see their pet. They're the lucky ones. So many won't even be able to hug their pet again.

I had a woman from Metairie in my shop last week. She lived 2 blocks from the levee break in a 2 story house. She left her dog upstairs with food and water but knows he probably won't be alive by the time she gets back in. I just wanted to hold her and hug her.
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#74 Postby cristy » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:22 pm

[quote I wasn't aware that having differing opinions was not allowed here. Thanks for the clarification.[/quote]

Mac,

You're very welcome, from Cristy.

Everyone, please, don't respond anymore to Mac. All he's doing is antagonizing everyone in this forum. Let him express his opinion, but please let's not waste our time and energy on replying to his sarcastic and negative comments. Thanks
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#75 Postby Stephanie » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:23 pm

You're welcome Noah!
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#76 Postby cancunkid » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:48 pm

http://www.alleycat.org/marketplace.html okay here is a way you don't have to pay a penny to help. I noticed this last night that you can apply for a credit card that donates to alley cat allies. I am sure most national animal rescue groups do the same. I know this wouldn't help this time but we all use credit cards and it might be the help that is needed next time without any money or resources taken from humans.

Gotta say though the last thing any of the evacuees need is another trama, like leaving their pets behind.
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#77 Postby cristy » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:57 pm

In the nola.com website, they are urging everyone to contact the Governor of LA, to give the rescue organizations access to the City of New Orleans. Apparently they are not allowing HSUS or any rescue groups go in there and start rescuing. The National Guard is stopping them. Also, people that are being rescued are not being allowed to take their pets with them.... People are desperate and don't want to leave their pets behind. So they are urging everyone to contact her immediately. Here's the link to NOLA's website http://www.nola.com/forums/animals/index.ssf, Please read Post #1604.

And here's the link to the Governor http://www.gov.state.la.us/govemail.asp. Please read and pass this on to all your friends. Let's do everything possible in our power to help these poor animals....
Thanks for all your help.
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#78 Postby sam-E » Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:01 pm

I apologize if this has been posted but I was crying too hard to read past page two of this topic


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Foster homes needed, For Animals of Katrina



They are mainly looking for homes to adopt animals that had to be left in their care now:


Transport Provided to Anywhere - Room Desperately Needed! (For the Animal Victims of Katrina)

There is transportation provided, with people ready and waiting, for upwards of 200 dogs and 150 cats so far rescued from the devastation of hurricane Katrina. What these animals need is a place to go. Kennels, boarding, vets offices, shelters with any extra space, foster homes and rescues. Even one or two open kennels would greatly help.

From what we know, all animals have been vaccinated and are in good health considering the conditions. There are dogs and cats of every breed and size. Some are in groups of two, three or four, hailing from the same family, while some are solitary. ANY KENNEL SPACE AVAILABLE CAN CERTAINLY BE USED. These drivers are willing to move these animals ANYWHERE they need to go. Absolutely anywhere.

The current safe houses for these animals are being inundated and some of these pets will have to be euthanized if they are not moved to make room for the incoming animals.

Please feel free to pass on this information everywhere. Every forum, every list, every community.

REMEMBER THESE ANIMALS WILL BE TRANSPORTED TO YOU.

If you know anyone, anywhere, that is willing to take in even one cat or dog, please have them contact Lynda at the information provided below.

They are also asking for ANY kind of donations for the animals - money, food, bedding, water, etc.


Please Contact Lynda V. at: 203 515 3024 (cell)
Home: 203 227 5308
Email: Lynda@portone.com

Please contact at any time, day or night. These volunteers, rescuers and shelter workers are working around the clock.
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#79 Postby sam-E » Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:02 pm

deleted due to double posting. sorry.
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#80 Postby Terry » Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:14 pm

Several groups ARE in NOLA. But they need more "boots on the ground" and "boats in the water" to be successful.

Requests to the media for access from pet rescue volunteers may work quicker than sending to LA Gov. Just a thought.

Also - anyone going in or handling just rescued pets needs the following vaccines:

tetanus
Hep. A
Hep. B series
and pre-rabies vaccine is suggested
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