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#21 Postby hurricanedude » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:14 pm

I say the 5am advisory will have watches and warnings as far north as St Augustine....perhaps as far north as Fernandina Beach!
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#22 Postby Brent » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:18 pm

I'm not convinced it's going so far north... I'm thinking around the Cape, give or take 40-50 miles.
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#23 Postby Lowpressure » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:18 pm

Banding to the western side with pretty good outflow developing. Be careful with this one.
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#24 Postby spinfan4eva » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:22 pm

hurricanedude wrote:I say the 5am advisory will have watches and warnings as far north as St Augustine....perhaps as far north as Fernandina Beach!


No Way :grr: :talk to the hand: You been listenning to Tim Deegan? :na:

Seriously, I hope you are wrong, but I agree, its not looking good :(
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#25 Postby Amanzi » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:27 pm

Brent wrote:I'm not convinced it's going so far north... I'm thinking around the Cape, give or take 40-50 miles.

I have to agree with you, I will be the first to admit on my side it is a complete guess... also climo would tend to agree with us as well (for the most part anyway).
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#26 Postby rainstorm » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:28 pm

this has trouble written all over it
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#27 Postby dixiebreeze » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:33 pm

Official track --- for the present:

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc_pages/tc_home.html
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#28 Postby leonardo » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:35 pm

nice convection burst, but IMO, this is no where close to being a storm yet. just doesn't seem to be enough organization and I doubt that the NHC would upgrade it anyways without recon

I agree on this being potential trouble down the road though
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#29 Postby jdray » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:29 pm

spinfan4eva wrote:
hurricanedude wrote:I say the 5am advisory will have watches and warnings as far north as St Augustine....perhaps as far north as Fernandina Beach!


No Way :grr: :talk to the hand: You been listenning to Tim Deegan? :na:

Seriously, I hope you are wrong, but I agree, its not looking good :(


John Gaughan is "hoping" it goes south of us, but he is not sure. He isn't sold on it going east of us. He thinks either south of us or over us.

Fox 30 is basically saying anywhere over Florida.
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#30 Postby Brent » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:38 pm

NHC 11pm track... right at Jacksonville Beach.

If they verify, I think it'll be a hurricane when it comes in.
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#31 Postby Scorpion » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:42 pm

Wow, that would be historic. Also bad, as Jacksonville is a major city. Imagine, 2 major cities hit by hurricanes this year.
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#32 Postby Brent » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:45 pm

Scorpion wrote:Wow, that would be historic. Also bad, as Jacksonville is a major city. Imagine, 2 major cities hit by hurricanes this year.


Yeah... I'm especially concerned about that warm untouched water. As Katrina was 1st making landfall, she was strengthening and had she had more time, would have been stronger for Miami. Same deal here.
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#33 Postby Jevo » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:48 pm

Scorpion wrote:Wow, that would be historic. Also bad, as Jacksonville is a major city. Imagine, 2 major cities hit by hurricanes this year.


That would make 3 sir..... Unless we are discounting Miami as a major city
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#34 Postby jdray » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:55 pm

THe worst spot to hit is just south of the St Johns river mouth. This amplifies the storm surge into downtown Jacksonville.

Granted, this storm is nowhere near a beast, but the river channel and rain would amplify the situation, causing a little more flooding than would be normal from this type of storm. In other words, a 3 foot surge becomes a 6-8 foot surge downtown.

http://www.coj.net/Departments/Fire%20a ... %20Map.htm

as you can see, the topographical makeup of the river system amplifies any type of flood event.



*FYI, a Cat 5 hitting just south of the mouth of the St Johns would put downtown Jacksonville under 20+ feet of water according to the Naval Command/Hurricane Command at Mayport NAS and their SLOSH models.



**this by no means takes away from the people of NO. Their's was a tragedy.**
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#35 Postby spinfan4eva » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:59 pm

Brent wrote:NHC 11pm track... right at Jacksonville Beach.

If they verify, I think it'll be a hurricane when it comes in.


Well, looks like it likes the road less travelled, HWY 90 vs I10 :roll:

http://www.skeetobiteweather.com/picser ... p?t=z&m=16

This is insane, I am sure it will change but they are picking on Jacksonville 3 advisories in a row now :( I think it will head North or South of here given climatology
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#36 Postby jdray » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:02 pm

So anyone think I have to work early next week?


Taking bets now...
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#37 Postby spinfan4eva » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:09 pm

jdray wrote:So anyone think I have to work early next week?


Taking bets now...
Early next week, probably, but late this week, doubtful unfortunately :( Unless you wanna work in 65MPH winds!

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#38 Postby PTrackerLA » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:11 pm

I hope Georgia gets this one, I don't want to see anything that starts with an "O" in the GOM. For that matter the rest of the letters in the alphabet :lol: .
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#39 Postby jdray » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:14 pm

spinfan4eva wrote:
jdray wrote:So anyone think I have to work early next week?


Taking bets now...
Early next week, probably, but late this week, doubtful unfortunately :( Unless you wanna work in 65MPH winds!

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I have to drive across the buckman bridge, that little 3.5 mile long bridge is not fun at all to drive in anything over 40mph.

I had to drive in a rainband tonight coming home, 40+mph gusts and standing water makes a fun driving experience.

Looks like Im working from home.
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#40 Postby spinfan4eva » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:21 pm

The bridges will be closed Thursday at 45mph.

This is crazy, I dont recall Tim forecasting 65mph winds here even last year! I hope it dont get even stronger!

He is now on the air saying 50-85mph winds with widespread power outages. Track turns west at the Mouth of the St Johns River.

jdray wrote:I have to drive across the buckman bridge, that little 3.5 mile long bridge is not fun at all to drive in anything over 40mph.

I had to drive in a rainband tonight coming home, 40+mph gusts and standing water makes a fun driving experience.

Looks like Im working from home.
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