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Morticians prep for 40,000 bodies

#1 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:02 pm

Morticians prep for 40,000 bodies
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As the water level in much of New Orleans begins to slowly recede, officials are preparing to deal with thousands of dead bodies – bodies floating in contaminated water, hidden in damaged homes and even piled together in the freezer of the city's convention center.

"DMort is telling us to expect up to 40,000 bodies," Dan Buckner, a funeral home director, said, quoting officials with the Disaster Mortuary Operational Response Team, a volunteer arm of the Department of Homeland Security.

According to a report in the Shelbyville Times-Gazette of Tennessee, Buckner, co-owner of Gowen-Smith Chapel, and his partner are on their way to the Gulf Coast to help deal with the mounting number of dead.

The 40,000 estimate does "not include the number of disinterred remains that have been displaced from ... mausoleums," Buckner told the paper.

The Dmort teams include morticians, medical examiners, coroners, pathologists, anthropologists, odontologists, dental assistants, photographers, police, DNA, X-ray, evidence, fingerprint, mental health and computer specialists, and others such as heavy-equipment operators.

"Until they search each and every remaining house and remove all the fallen materials ... they will not know how many people are there," Buckner said.

The mortician said he expects temporary morgues to be set up for identification.

"My personal opinion is they will be recovering bodies for 30 ... to 120 days," Buckner told the Times-Gazette.

He mentioned bodies will be found "in attics and yards and the water." People "were told to go to their attic. Then the water came up and they had no way to escape.

"Firemen chopped holes in roofs and found bodies."

Meanwhile, a National Guardsman showed a reporter the many bodies piled up in the New Orleans Convention Center, including in the freezer.

"Don't step in that blood – it's contaminated," Guardsman Mikel Brooks told the New Orleans Times-Picayune. "That one with his arm sticking up in the air, he's an old man."

Then he shined the light on a smaller human figure under a white sheet next to the elderly man.

"That's a kid," he said. "There's another one in the freezer, a 7-year-old with her throat cut."

Continued the solider: "There's an old woman," pointing to a wheelchair covered by a sheet. "I escorted her in myself. And that old man got bludgeoned to death," he said of the body lying on the floor next to the wheelchair.

The Guardsmen stationed at the center say there are between 30 and 40 bodies in the freezer.

"It's not on, but at least you can shut the door," said fellow Guardsman Phillip Thompson.

According to the New Orleans paper, in just one subdivision, Sherwood Forest, survivors who showed up to the Convention Center yesterday said police told them roughly 90 people in the neighborhood had died.

In St. Bernard, 22 bodies were found lashed together. Officials surmised the drowning victims had tried to stay together to keep themselves from being washed away in the storm.

Part of the challenge for officials will be identifying bodies that have been decomposing for days.

"I ain't got the stomach for it, even after what I saw in Iraq," said Brooks, referring to the freezer where bodies sat decomposing. "In Iraq, it's one-on-one. It's war. It's fair. Here, it's just crazy. It's anarchy. When you get down to killing and raping people in the streets for food and water … and this is America. This is just 300 miles south of where I live."


I never thought I would ever see something like this. But this could be worst then the great hurricane of the 1700s. May god rest there souls.

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#2 Postby soonertwister » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:19 pm

Edited for mistaken identity. My apologies folks. It's late, and I'm going to bed.
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#3 Postby Windy » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:20 pm

BTW, here it is from a reputable source for those who doubt:

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#4 Postby MBismyPlayground » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:22 pm

OMG..................
The 7 year old.... the one everyone talked about who was raped.......OMG........poor poor children.........poor poor people......... :cry:
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#5 Postby Terry » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:25 pm

I am sure that all of us are hoping and believing that the #s don't go that high. There are still plenty of people alive in their homes.... not sure for how long, however.
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#6 Postby soonertwister » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:26 pm

More than half that article came almost verbatim from a single article in the Times-Picayune today.
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#7 Postby soonertwister » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:30 pm

MBismyPlayground wrote:OMG..................
The 7 year old.... the one everyone talked about who was raped.......OMG........poor poor children.........poor poor people......... :cry:


If we insist on being graphic, the 7-year-old girl had her throat slit. The 5-year-old was reportedly gang-raped and died thereafter.

Now those who derided me for what was so awful in the article today deserve an apology. I posted the truth here this evening. So what's the problem? Gee, I guess it's a mystery.
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#8 Postby MBismyPlayground » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:39 pm

soonertwister wrote:
MBismyPlayground wrote:OMG..................
The 7 year old.... the one everyone talked about who was raped.......OMG........poor poor children.........poor poor people......... :cry:


If we insist on being graphic, the 7-year-old girl had her throat slit. The 5-year-old was reportedly gang-raped and died thereafter.

Now those who derided me for what was so awful in the article today deserve an apology. I posted the truth here this evening. So what's the problem? Gee, I guess it's a mystery.


Hey, I tried to find the article, and could not, much earlier today.
This is the truth as printed in the paper, no matter how much we all would like to shut our eyes and ignore it.
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#9 Postby soonertwister » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:51 pm

They have excised the article from their blog, but there's no doubt it existed.

I guess somebody must have leaned on them to dump it.

Believe me, someone has proof that it existed, I guarantee it.
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#10 Postby soonertwister » Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:58 pm

Here is the heavily edited version of the original story. Almost one-third of the story has been censored by the newspaper, including whole sections of abominations against society.

http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tporleans/ ... 05_09.html
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#11 Postby MBismyPlayground » Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:05 am

soonertwister wrote:Here is the heavily edited version of the original story. Almost one-third of the story has been censored by the newspaper, including whole sections of abominations against society.

http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tporleans/ ... 05_09.html


Funny how people want to hear the truth and yet cringe and complain when they see it in writing. Reality equals denial.
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#12 Postby HurriCat » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:24 am

Last night (Tuesday 06SEP), they showed the inside of the makeshift morgue as it awaits it's terrible inventory. There were plastic curtains everywhere, huge metal waste containers and the whole floor is plastic sheeting. I became so nauseated that I had to change channels. I wish it could be as easy for the workers, the survivors and all the folks in that living nightmare. :(
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#13 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:17 am

HurriCat wrote:Last night (Tuesday 06SEP), they showed the inside of the makeshift morgue as it awaits it's terrible inventory. There were plastic curtains everywhere, huge metal waste containers and the whole floor is plastic sheeting. I became so nauseated that I had to change channels. I wish it could be as easy for the workers, the survivors and all the folks in that living nightmare. :(


I saw that this morning. If it is the same one it has been set up in ST. Gabrielle in a warehouse. This will not, of course, be the only one. This nation is in for a shock beyond belief IMO. We have never seen anything like this here, only in places like India, Bangladesh and other countries hit by typhoons and of course after the tsumami.
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#14 Postby stormie_skies » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:04 am

What an awful, awful, awful thought... :( I hope and pray that we won't approach that number....but frankly, at this point all bets are off.....I no longer see tens of thousands as unreasonable.

Its all almost too sad for words. :cry:
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#15 Postby JTD » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:10 am

vbhoutex wrote:
HurriCat wrote:Last night (Tuesday 06SEP), they showed the inside of the makeshift morgue as it awaits it's terrible inventory. There were plastic curtains everywhere, huge metal waste containers and the whole floor is plastic sheeting. I became so nauseated that I had to change channels. I wish it could be as easy for the workers, the survivors and all the folks in that living nightmare. :(


I saw that this morning. If it is the same one it has been set up in ST. Gabrielle in a warehouse. This will not, of course, be the only one. This nation is in for a shock beyond belief IMO. We have never seen anything like this here, only in places like India, Bangladesh and other countries hit by typhoons and of course after the tsumami.


Vbhoutex,

I disagree. I was watching CTV here in Canada today and they said that they have learned that the national guard has orders to try to keep the trule scale of the disaster away from the public. The National guard is standing over those who passed away now and taking very strong action against any media that tries to videotape the scene.
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#16 Postby RichG » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:16 am

National Guard is not standing over bodies in order to protect them from being photographed! More propaganda. Please think before posting. There are up to 10,000 bodies in NO and you really think there is a guardsman in front over everyone? Please folks remember if you hear or read reports that are nonsensical please think bofore you post. Thankyou
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#17 Postby JTD » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:36 am

What she said was that in areas where the National Guard is and those that passed away also are, the national guard has cracked down on the media and is no longer allowing photography. She said that she was now seeing a censorship operation taking place that didn't exist a few days ago.

This isn't a bad thing at all because we need to show respect for those people but I doubt that is the only motivation and that's what she said.

This came from Lisa Laflamme of CTV who is CTV's national affairs correspondent.

As far as CTV's credibility, any search of google will confirm that they are highly credible.
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#18 Postby RichG » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:44 am

I cannot vouch for CTV's crediblity however I sincerly doubt there is a "censorship operation" going on. Let's see some credible news reports on a "censorship operation" before we post these conspiracies. American media isn't very high on censorship. They will be the first to scream.
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#19 Postby JTD » Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:40 pm

RichG wrote:I cannot vouch for CTV's crediblity however I sincerly doubt there is a "censorship operation" going on. Let's see some credible news reports on a "censorship operation" before we post these conspiracies. American media isn't very high on censorship. They will be the first to scream.


RichG, here is some confirmation unfortunately

http://www.drudgereport.com

The headline you will find there says "FEDS WANT NO PHOTOS OF DEAD".

Again, this isn't necessarily a bad thing because we need to respect these people but that isn't the sole motivating factor or probably the primary motivating factor.
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#20 Postby mf_dolphin » Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:59 pm

If one of my family members was lying there I wouldn't want pictures of them all over national news. Photos of dead bodies are not required to report the news. If you call that censorship then so be it. Once upon a time our media showed some restraint and still had sommon decency. Unfortunately that's not the case now.

Again, this isn't necessarily a bad thing because we need to respect these people but that isn't the sole motivating factor or probably the primary motivating factor.


You make an assumption without any facts to support your position.
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