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#121 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:40 pm

cajungal wrote:The latest model runs don't look a GOM threat anymore. Looks more likely that it will recurve.


Agreed. They have now done somewhat more of a northward adjustment.
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#122 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:06 pm

remember, models will shift all over the place....including globals...its very low lat...and the longer it remains weak, it will be steered by the low level winds....we will see
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#123 Postby Huckster » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:14 pm

And the re-curve war begins...

"Models turn it out to sea, no threat."

vs.

"It's still far south, and it's not well defined...the models are on crack!"
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#124 Postby cjrciadt » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:16 pm

Huckster wrote:And the re-curve war begins...

"Models turn it out to sea, no threat."

vs.

"It's still far south, and it's not well defined...the models are on crack!"
:yesno:
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#125 Postby krysof » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:16 pm

with a storm far out in the atlantic, the recurve scenario will always be here, I say it will be a fish, but because the bad luck i'm having it won't be a fish
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#126 Postby vaffie » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:17 pm

Huckster wrote:And the re-curve war begins...

"Models turn it out to sea, no threat."

vs.

"It's still far south, and it's not well defined...the models are on crack!"


Don't you love it!? :) It's so entertaining. It makes you want to jump in, doesn't it?
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#127 Postby cajungal » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:17 pm

:fishing: This may be Phil the Fish. Hopefully
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#128 Postby skysummit » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:18 pm

cajungal wrote::fishing: This may be Phil the Fish. Hopefully


If so, could we call it "Dr. Phil" ?
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#129 Postby Anonymous » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:24 pm

Keep in mind, the name is French, pronounced "FA-LEEP"
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#130 Postby O Town » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:27 pm

Huckster wrote:And the re-curve war begins...

"Models turn it out to sea, no threat."

vs.

"It's still far south, and it's not well defined...the models are on crack!"
:roflmao:
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#131 Postby truballer#1 » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:28 pm

hot waters down where invest is
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#132 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:29 pm

It is gradually getting better organized and defined...
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#133 Postby cjrciadt » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:38 pm

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#134 Postby LAwxrgal » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:41 pm

What are the BAM models seeing that the others aren't? Why would the storm curve that sharply to the north?
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#135 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:44 pm

LAwxrgal wrote:What are the BAM models seeing that the others aren't? Why would the storm curve that sharply to the north?


A trough that is coming through is expected by several (but not all) models to weaken the ridge, potentially allowing a more northward movement or a progressively more northward movement (e.g., first west, then west-northwest, then northwest, then finally a more northerly path). About half of the models indicate this scenario might occur. If it does that, the system might strengthen more.
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#136 Postby LAwxrgal » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:46 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:
LAwxrgal wrote:What are the BAM models seeing that the others aren't? Why would the storm curve that sharply to the north?


A trough that is coming through is expected by several (but not all) models to weaken the ridge, potentially allowing a more northward movement or a progressively more northward movement (e.g., first west, then west-northwest, then northwest, then finally a more northerly path). About half of the models indicate this scenario might occur. If it does that, the system might strengthen more.


Wouldn't a stronger system move more poleward anyway regardless to the presence or absence of a trough?
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#137 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:50 pm

LAwxrgal wrote:Wouldn't a stronger system move more poleward anyway regardless to the presence or absence of a trough?


Well... that is true in a sense. Stronger systems tend to attempt to move on a more northerly track (e.g., west-northwest, northwest, etc.); however, a stronger ridge can keep even strong systems on a west or west-northwest track.

For now, I think INVEST.95L may pass east of Florida and the Bahamas; however, conditions may change. There does seem to be trend in the models toward a weaker ridge and more shear later on, though, which may steer the system away from the U.S. (such as Florida) or, if it continues on a more westerly track, shear it off and weaken it potentially. Another scenario that it might be steered away from Florida but impact the Carolinas.
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#138 Postby hicksta » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:50 pm

LAwxrgal wrote:
CapeVerdeWave wrote:
LAwxrgal wrote:What are the BAM models seeing that the others aren't? Why would the storm curve that sharply to the north?


A trough that is coming through is expected by several (but not all) models to weaken the ridge, potentially allowing a more northward movement or a progressively more northward movement (e.g., first west, then west-northwest, then northwest, then finally a more northerly path). About half of the models indicate this scenario might occur. If it does that, the system might strengthen more.


Wouldn't a stronger system move more poleward anyway regardless to the presence or absence of a trough?


System that are strengthing ussually do pull a little mroe N
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#139 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:14 pm


ABNT20 KNHC 142057
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
530 PM EDT WED SEP 14 2005

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON HURRICANE
OPHELIA...LOCATED ABOUT 50 MILES SOUTHWEST OF CAPE LOOKOUT NORTH
CAROLINA.

THE TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT 1125 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF THE
SOUTHERN WINDWARD ISLANDS CONTINUES TO SHOW SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION
AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT ABOUT 15 MPH. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE
EXPECTED TO BECOME MORE FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND THIS LARGE
SYSTEM HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A TROPICAL DEPRESSION OVER THE
NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL STORM FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED THROUGH
THURSDAY.

FORECASTER FRANKLIN
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#140 Postby Fodie77 » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:37 pm

This is definitely a "wait and see" storm.
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