GOES-12 is down (Now FIXED!)

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GOES-12 is down (Now FIXED!)

#1 Postby Derecho » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:05 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/SATS/bulletins.html
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#2 Postby Jim Cantore » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:06 pm

oops :eek:
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#3 Postby CocoCreek » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:08 pm

Nice...good timing. :roll:
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#4 Postby Derecho » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:18 pm

Some more info. This sounds pretty bad to me; like they're losing attitude control. This is definitely the satellite itself, not ground control or comm problems.

025
NOUS42 KWNO 171611
ADMNFD
SPECIAL NCEP DISCUSSION
CENTRAL OPERATIONS/NCEP/NWS/WASHINGTON DC
1605 UTC SAT SEP 17 2005

171605..SIGNIFICANT GOES-EAST SATL NAVIGATION PROBLEMS
HAVE BEEN NOTED BY NCEP/NWS FIELD OFFICES..AFTER 1520Z
AND NESDIS/SOCC ARE WORKING ON THIS ISSUE
CURRENTLY. RESTORATION TIME IS NOT KNOWN AT THIS TIME..IT
COULD BE SOMETIME THIS AFTERNOON BEFORE A RESOLUTION IS
SEEN. SOCC/NESDIS IS WORKING THIS ISSUE AND WILL PROVIDE
MORE DETAILS SOON.

NEWBY/SDM/NCO/NCEP
NNNN
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#5 Postby wxmann_91 » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:18 pm

CocoCreek wrote:Nice...good timing. :roll:


If you don't mean it sarcastically then you are right. Bad timing would be if there were a huge Cat 5 beast somewhere in the basin (like the outage that occurred when Mitch was at her peak). Even worse would be an outage during a Katrina-type situation.
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#6 Postby Derecho » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:21 pm

It's not like a storm would be lost track of; there are a variety of polar orbiters, you just would only have a sat shot every few hours.

Also, GOES-11 is in storage, but everything works on it, and sitting over the central US.

I don't know what the time frame for making it operational and moving it eastwards would be. My impression is a couple of days.
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#7 Postby x-y-no » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:29 pm

I was just going to ask what the heck is going on with the sattelite imaging - I thought first it was just the GHCC site which is screwed up, but everyplace else I've chacked had the same problems. Last image available is from 1540Z, and the last two images are way out of alignment.

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#8 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:47 pm

A little piece of good news is that the backup site of NRL has the meteo 7 images for TD17 but the quality is not great.

http://tcweb.fnmoc.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_home.cgi
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#9 Postby Derecho » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:14 pm

One other thing to keep in mind is that there's a VAST amount of GOES data used in the init of the models.

This would totally screw that up.
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#10 Postby MWatkins » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:22 pm

GOES 10 has been switched to full-disk mode for now...but I'm not sure of any sites that resolve the full disk imagery...

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#11 Postby Ola » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:30 pm

MWatkins wrote:GOES 10 has been switched to full-disk mode for now...but I'm not sure of any sites that resolve the full disk imagery...

MW


THIS IS WHAT I FOUND
http://www.cira.colostate.edu/Special/C ... full40.asp

But its the Pacific
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#12 Postby P.K. » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:43 pm

MWatkins wrote:GOES 10 has been switched to full-disk mode for now...but I'm not sure of any sites that resolve the full disk imagery...


There are, but they only update every 6 hours which I guess isn't often enough.
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#13 Postby x-y-no » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:44 pm

Derecho wrote:It's not like a storm would be lost track of; there are a variety of polar orbiters, you just would only have a sat shot every few hours.

Also, GOES-11 is in storage, but everything works on it, and sitting over the central US.

I don't know what the time frame for making it operational and moving it eastwards would be. My impression is a couple of days.


Yeah, GOES-11 is in cold storage at 104W, which would give decent coverage of the west Atlantic even without repositioning.

I know they wake it up about once a year to test, but I don't know how long it takes to get it operational.
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#14 Postby Derecho » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:01 pm

It's FIXED!

171825..GOES-EAST SATL NAVIGATION PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN
RESOLVED. GOES-WEST WILL BE PLACED OUT OF FULL DISK MODE
ONCE AGAIN..BACK INTO NORMAL OPS DURING THIS NEXT HOUR.
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#15 Postby cjrciadt » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:02 pm

Derecho wrote:It's FIXED!

171825..GOES-EAST SATL NAVIGATION PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN
RESOLVED. GOES-WEST WILL BE PLACED OUT OF FULL DISK MODE
ONCE AGAIN..BACK INTO NORMAL OPS DURING THIS NEXT HOUR.
:notworthy:
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#16 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:04 pm

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#17 Postby southerngale » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:05 pm

Awesome news!! :)
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#18 Postby jkt21787 » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:06 pm

YAY!!!

Now for that all important first image...
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#19 Postby tracyswfla » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:08 pm

Oh Yea Oh Yea :coaster:
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#20 Postby Aslkahuna » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:43 pm

Sounds like our GOES-12 has been singed a bit by recent Solar Activity and it's aftermath. The term for such problems is SEU for Single Event Upset which can be transient or permanent depending upon what has been damaged.

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