Interesting Poll: Will Philippe Be a Carolina Threat?
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Interesting Poll: Will Philippe Be a Carolina Threat?
Who thinks that Philippe will be an eventual threat to the Carolinas possibly? Things are still very uncertain, but I think people all along the southeast U.S. but ESPECIALLY in the Carolinas need to monitor Philippe. Why? Historical climatology supports that, out of storms that have formed in the area of Philippe and have moved north of the northern Lesser Antilles through a ridge weakness and have made landfall, many of those landfalling storms have made landfall in or affected the Carolinas (e.g., a good example of such a storm is Isabel from 2003).
What are your thoughts? Comments, opinions, and poll entries are welcome.
What are your thoughts? Comments, opinions, and poll entries are welcome.
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Here are some storms that have made landfall in the U.S. in the Carolinas after following a track north of or just skirted the northern Lesser Antilles through a weakness as well as other storms that have gone north of the islands but did not make a Carolina landfall.
Isabel in 2003:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/2003H/ISABEL/track.gif
Floyd in 1999:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1999H/FLOYD/track.gif
Jose in 1999:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1999H/JOSE/track.gif
Bonnie in 1998:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1998H/BONNIE/track.gif
Danielle in 1998:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1998H/DANIELLE/track.gif
Erika in 1997:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1997H/ERIKA/track.gif
Bertha in 1996:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1996H/BERTHA/track.gif
Edouard in 1996:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1996H/EDOUARD/track.gif
Fran in 1996:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1996H/FRAN/track.gif
Tropical Storm Chantal in 1995:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1995H/CHANTAL/track.gif
Felix in 1995:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1995H/FELIX/track.gif
Luis in 1995:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1995H/LUIS/track.gif
Marilyn in 1995:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1995H/MARILYN/track.gif
These are just a few.
Isabel in 2003:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/2003H/ISABEL/track.gif
Floyd in 1999:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1999H/FLOYD/track.gif
Jose in 1999:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1999H/JOSE/track.gif
Bonnie in 1998:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1998H/BONNIE/track.gif
Danielle in 1998:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1998H/DANIELLE/track.gif
Erika in 1997:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1997H/ERIKA/track.gif
Bertha in 1996:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1996H/BERTHA/track.gif
Edouard in 1996:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1996H/EDOUARD/track.gif
Fran in 1996:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1996H/FRAN/track.gif
Tropical Storm Chantal in 1995:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1995H/CHANTAL/track.gif
Felix in 1995:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1995H/FELIX/track.gif
Luis in 1995:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1995H/LUIS/track.gif
Marilyn in 1995:
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1995H/MARILYN/track.gif
These are just a few.
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Well it's an interesting question. If it's a threat to the mainland US then North Carolina would be at the top of the list. Storms this time of year that come from the deep tropics tend to recurve north of the Islands. Some recurve near 65W...some near 70W... and some near 75W.
For now it's way too early to evaluate whether it's a fish or a threat. However....the trend in global model guidance is for a restrengthening of the ridge after day 5...which would indicate at least a possible movement toward
the mainland U.S. late next week.
My guess is we won't really know for another 2-3 days...after that we should have a good handle on whether or not the system will approach the U.S. coast.
Anyone who thinks they know one way or the other right now is only fooling themselves.
For now it's way too early to evaluate whether it's a fish or a threat. However....the trend in global model guidance is for a restrengthening of the ridge after day 5...which would indicate at least a possible movement toward
the mainland U.S. late next week.
My guess is we won't really know for another 2-3 days...after that we should have a good handle on whether or not the system will approach the U.S. coast.
Anyone who thinks they know one way or the other right now is only fooling themselves.
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I think it's to early to say if TD 17 is a Carolina threat but I sure think it's a threat to the east coast. As of now I thinking the ridge is going to be to strong a la 12Z UKMET and the storm recurves to the west. However, I'm waiting for what the OZ runs got to say. We really won't have a good idea for a few days.
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Theres a possibility, but Im thinking of a track similar to Hortense in 1996
Theres a possibility, but Im thinking of a track similar to Hortense in 1996
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All just subjective opinion but from the model loops I’ve just looked at, several showing TS17 punching N then NNE into a strengthening E-W ridge, which I think is quite unlikely. Others show it NW then slowing toward the ridge, and beginning a gradual curve west. I think this is much more likely. i.e. a curve westwards the further north it goes. Perhaps getting as far north as SC/NC latitudes, or else crossing G or north FL, and maintaining a generally westerly heading for a couple of days, either over land or across northern GOM. Headed west either way.
Sorry, but that’s just what it’s looking like to me, at this point.
The turn west should slow the forward speed, so lots more time for things to change with regard to the blocking E-W ridge, and that will have a big influence on where it makes landfall, but does not seem likely to prevent a landfall occurring (I think).
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Sorry, but that’s just what it’s looking like to me, at this point.
The turn west should slow the forward speed, so lots more time for things to change with regard to the blocking E-W ridge, and that will have a big influence on where it makes landfall, but does not seem likely to prevent a landfall occurring (I think).
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