Best place for Rita to make landfall? My response

timNms · #1 Postby **timNms** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:36 am

Mods, feel free to ban, block, remove or whatever you think necessary, but I for one am tired of the Bull that's been being posted on here about where Rita should hit.

I've seen numerous posts on here about where would be the best place for Rita to make landfall after she enters the Gulf.

I'm here to tell you that there is NO best place for her to make landfall along the Gulf Coast. I'm not aware of any area from Florida through Texas that is not populated. If ONE family or ONE person is affected by this storm, then that is ONE TOO MANY!

We need to stop making irresponsible posts such as "It would be best for Rita to make landfall where Katrina did because there aren't many people left in that area" or "Rita should make landfall along the Texas coastline where there is a small population". It does not matter where she hits. Somebody will be affected by a loss of property, or worse, their life! Radar said it best when describing the situation they are in in the Biloxi area. Many people who stayed to ride out the storm found themselves with homes that have major damage and no vehicles left to evacuate in. People are living in tents in that area. Shelters are still full from Katrina's evacuees. Roadways are not in the best condition in Mississippi nor in New Orleans....and who knows what it looks like in the area southeast of New Orleans where Katrina first made landfall. What about those people?

Right now, it looks like things will be going downhill for those who live in south Florida and in the Keys. Our thoughts and prayers should be with those people and we should be ready and willing to offer any help to them that we can. A quick response to this disaster could help save lives. I'm sure had we had help much sooner (was about 6 days here before we even saw a truck with ICE or a Red Cross vehicle..still haven't seen Fema) we would not have lost lives in this area.

Climbing down from my high horse now.

iceangel · #2 Postby **iceangel** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:46 am

timNms wrote:I for one am tired of the Bull that's been being posted on here about where Rita should hit.

I've seen numerous posts on here about where would be the best place for Rita to make landfall after she enters the Gulf.

I'm here to tell you that there is NO best place for her to make landfall along the Gulf Coast. I'm not aware of any area from Florida through Texas that is not populated. If ONE family or ONE person is affected by this storm, then that is ONE TOO MANY!

We need to stop making irresponsible posts such as "It would be best for Rita to make landfall where Katrina did because there aren't many people left in that area" or "Rita should make landfall along the Texas coastline where there is a small population". It does not matter where she hits. Somebody will be affected by a loss of property, or worse, their life! Radar said it best when describing the situation they are in in the Biloxi area. Many people who stayed to ride out the storm found themselves with homes that have major damage and no vehicles left to evacuate in. People are living in tents in that area. Shelters are still full from Katrina's evacuees. Roadways are not in the best condition in Mississippi nor in New Orleans....and who knows what it looks like in the area southeast of New Orleans where Katrina first made landfall. What about those people?

Right now, it looks like things will be going downhill for those who live in south Florida and in the Keys. Our thoughts and prayers should be with those people and we should be ready and willing to offer any help to them that we can. A quick response to this disaster could help save lives. I'm sure had we had help much sooner (was about 6 days here before we even saw a truck with ICE or a Red Cross vehicle..still haven't seen Fema) we would not have lost lives in this area.

Climbing down from my high horse now.

DITTO!!! Very well said!!

bahamaswx · #3 Postby **bahamaswx** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:51 am

Your argument is flawed. There is a best place, there's simply no good place.

timNms · #4 Postby **timNms** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:00 am

bahamaswx wrote:Your argument is flawed. There is a best place, there's simply no good place.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. However, my argument stands. There is NO BEST PLACE/GOOD PLACE for this storm to make landfall along the US coastline because no matter where she goes, someone's life will be affected by it. Whether that be loss of property or loss of life, someone will experience the wrath of a storm and it makes me sick to my stomach to read some uneducated, unintelligent comments about it. Most of the people making comments of this nature have never experienced anything like the destruction that those who went thru Katrina experienced.

You guys in the Bahamas will experience some of the flooding and winds from Rita, but chances are, you won't experience the full fury of this storm because by the time she's a cane, she will have moved away from your area. I do hope for your sakes that this is the case. I don't wish anything like Katrina on anyone!

southerngale · #5 Postby **southerngale** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:05 am

You're right...there is NO best place for Rita to make landfall. Unfortunately, it looks like it will be making landfall somewhere. I read the posts you're referring to and while I can understand how it would upset you, I don't believe the people who mentioned it were trying to be cruel at all. Whether they thought it out or not, I don't know. But they gave the reasons for it, and it was to minimize human loss and potential damage. It wasn't to kick people while they're down. Maybe they weren't thinking about the people rummaging through the remains of their houses or living in tents, etc. Right or wrong, I think they were just trying to think of a best case scenario even if there really isn't one.

I will say that I was a little insulted by your comment that most of the country was too ignorant to notice that Mississippi took a direct hit. I believe that everyone I know, knows. Many of us gave our time, money or just prayers if that's all we could do. It's not our fault the media focused more on New Orleans. Give your fellow Americans a break. We cried with all of you...

timNms · #6 Postby **timNms** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:27 am

southerngale wrote:You're right...there is NO best place for Rita to make landfall. Unfortunately, it looks like it will be making landfall somewhere. I read the posts you're referring to and while I can understand how it would upset you, I don't believe the people who mentioned it were trying to be cruel at all. Whether they thought it out or not, I don't know. But they gave the reasons for it, and it was to minimize human loss and potential damage. It wasn't to kick people while they're down. Maybe they weren't thinking about the people rummaging through the remains of their houses or living in tents, etc. Right or wrong, I think they were just trying to think of a best case scenario even if there really isn't one.

I will say that I was a little insulted by your comment that most of the country was too ignorant to notice that Mississippi took a direct hit. I believe that everyone I know, knows. Many of us gave our time, money or just prayers if that's all we could do. It's not our fault the media focused more on New Orleans. Give your fellow Americans a break. We cried with all of you...

Kelly, it was not my intention to offend you or anyone else. I should have clarified my post that you referred to and put the blame of the ignorance on the national news media for not showing what is going on in rural areas.

edited....on second thought

#7 Postby **Windy** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:39 am

C'mon now. CNN had Anderson Cooper based out of Biloxi for the better part of a week. Nobody thinks New Orleans was the only place destroyed. America hasn't forgotton about you (FEMA aside). Part of the reason you don't see CNN all over the place is that you can't exactly get all over the place down there right now, y'know, with all the missing roads and widespread debris. You have to be able to drive to a place to report from it.

Do I know what it's like in rural areas that were hit? Sure. Total destruction. I've seen the aerial shots. So have a lot of readers on this board. Actually, while we aren't on the ground like you are, in terms of "big picture", a lot of the members here are more situationally aware about the Katrina disaster than even you are.

I know it's an emotional topic, but try to come at it a little more peacefully. :wink:

inotherwords · #8 Postby **inotherwords** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:56 am

It's also just an internet discussion board, and several people's opinions. It's important not to take what others say so seriously sometimes. Hard to say when one is feeling emotional, though. I've done it myself. But put it in perspective. It's not like the storm is actually going to listen to them. It's going to go where it wants to.

timNms · #9 Postby **timNms** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:06 am

inotherwords wrote:It's also just an internet discussion board, and several people's opinions. It's important not to take what others say so seriously sometimes. Hard to say when one is feeling emotional, though. I've done it myself. But put it in perspective. It's not like the storm is actually going to listen to them. It's going to go where it wants to.

Yep, just a message board...but one should think before they post certain things. (I'm included).

Really shouldn't wish this storm on anyone and be ready and willing to respond to those in need when she does make landfall. I sincerely hope NO ONE has to go thru what we went thru during and after Katrina. It will be a LONG time before things in this area are back to normal. School begins tomorrow for my son--after a 3-week break. I'm hoping to go back to my classroom Tuesday, depending upon road conditions and other variables.

Emotions have run the gamet from "i can't believe this, to wanting to cry all the time, to being angry because help did not arrive in time for some" from everyone affected by this storm. You just wouldn't believe what the people have had to endure. We kept hearing "be patient, help is on the way"...for SIX days we heard that lol. Thank GOD people in this area were willing and able to help those who were less fortunate. Food was shared, water was shared,...whatever we had, we shared with those less fortunate. I'm proud to be a part of such a great community.

Got a little off topic here. My basic point is this. To say it would be best for any storm to strike in any area where there is the posibility of one or more persons living in the path is irresponsible, no matter what the intentions of the poster is. The best case scenerio would be for it to fizzle out into nothing more than a few thundershowers to bring much needed rain to a dry area. Unfortunately, that probably won't happen.

Deb321 · #10 Postby **Deb321** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:13 am

tim, I understand what you are saying. And believe me when I say so many of us cried with you. I myself went through 2 hurricanes in 3 weeks last year not as bad as Katrina but bad enough and I couldn't believe it! What I also found to be true as you have is that when something like that happens you will see a community pull together and help each other. It really is a very humbling thing to experience. My thoughts continue to be with all of you there on the Gulf Coast

CajunMama · #11 Postby **CajunMama** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:33 am

Tim, I can understand your frustration but right now you are still feeling vulnerable. We had TV and did see what was happening in MS and AL also. There was also a wider area to cover in MS...help couldn't be everywhere at once. From what I have seen and read the hardest hit areas got aid first. Remote areas will always be last...that's just the nature of relief efforts unfortunately. Parts of NO didn't even get help for several days. There were people still on their roofs after a week! How long did it take for St. Bernard parish to get help? We have members in MS who have lost EVERYTHING and they are not complaining like this. They are picking up their lives and starting all over.

Our members are always going to post their predictions on where they think a landfall will be. They are not going to think of each individual member and wonder if it's going to offend them. It just isn't going to happen because with all the members we have from the gulf coast, a member is sure to be included in the landfall prediction area.

I don't think it's fair for you to be jumping on almost everyone who is posting in your thread because they don't agree 100% with what you are saying.

ConvergenceZone · #12 Postby **ConvergenceZone** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:11 am

I agree with SouthernGale,
When people are saying "a best place for landfall" they don't mean it as if they want it to landfall there. What they mean is that they realize it's going to landfall SOMEWHERE regardless, and if you HAD to make a choice between #1, large population and lots of structures and #2 very low population with minimal structures, I'm sure you'd pick #2... That's really the bottom line here. You want as minimal of casulties and damage as possible, because ya can't stop the storm from landfalling, so that's the only thing you can hope for.

Nobody wants it to landfall anywhere, but the fact is, it's going to, so you'll always prefer #2 as opposed to #1 when it comes to landfall.

Don't read too much into the word "BEST" and don't take the word literally.

timNms · #13 Postby **timNms** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:11 am

CajunMama wrote:Tim, I can understand your frustration but right now you are still feeling vulnerable. We had TV and did see what was happening in MS and AL also. There was also a wider area to cover in MS...help couldn't be everywhere at once. From what I have seen and read the hardest hit areas got aid first. Remote areas will always be last...that's just the nature of relief efforts unfortunately. Parts of NO didn't even get help for several days. There were people still on their roofs after a week! How long did it take for St. Bernard parish to get help? We have members in MS who have lost EVERYTHING and they are not complaining like this. They are picking up their lives and starting all over.

Our members are always going to post their predictions on where they think a landfall will be. They are not going to think of each individual member and wonder if it's going to offend them. It just isn't going to happen because with all the members we have from the gulf coast, a member is sure to be included in the landfall prediction area.

I don't think it's fair for you to be jumping on almost everyone who is posting in your thread because they don't agree 100% with what you are saying.

Probably have members in MS who lost everything....and have no means to post :roll:

You guys just don't get it. I'm done for tonight. Could a mod please lock this thread. It's pointless to try to get thru to some of you.

#14 Postby **Windy** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:02 am

timNms wrote:
CajunMama wrote:Tim, I can understand your frustration but right now you are still feeling vulnerable. We had TV and did see what was happening in MS and AL also. There was also a wider area to cover in MS...help couldn't be everywhere at once. From what I have seen and read the hardest hit areas got aid first. Remote areas will always be last...that's just the nature of relief efforts unfortunately. Parts of NO didn't even get help for several days. There were people still on their roofs after a week! How long did it take for St. Bernard parish to get help? We have members in MS who have lost EVERYTHING and they are not complaining like this. They are picking up their lives and starting all over.

Our members are always going to post their predictions on where they think a landfall will be. They are not going to think of each individual member and wonder if it's going to offend them. It just isn't going to happen because with all the members we have from the gulf coast, a member is sure to be included in the landfall prediction area.

I don't think it's fair for you to be jumping on almost everyone who is posting in your thread because they don't agree 100% with what you are saying.

Probably have members in MS who lost everything....and have no means to post

You guys just don't get it. I'm done for tonight. Could a mod please lock this thread. It's pointless to try to get thru to some of you.

Actually, the mods have been in phone contact with some of them. And some of them have posted from their new "homes". I think you're on the right track with the heading to bed for the night thing! :wink:

#15 Postby **loon** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:53 am

timNms wrote:
CajunMama wrote:Tim, I can understand your frustration but right now you are still feeling vulnerable. We had TV and did see what was happening in MS and AL also. There was also a wider area to cover in MS...help couldn't be everywhere at once. From what I have seen and read the hardest hit areas got aid first. Remote areas will always be last...that's just the nature of relief efforts unfortunately. Parts of NO didn't even get help for several days. There were people still on their roofs after a week! How long did it take for St. Bernard parish to get help? We have members in MS who have lost EVERYTHING and they are not complaining like this. They are picking up their lives and starting all over.

Our members are always going to post their predictions on where they think a landfall will be. They are not going to think of each individual member and wonder if it's going to offend them. It just isn't going to happen because with all the members we have from the gulf coast, a member is sure to be included in the landfall prediction area.

I don't think it's fair for you to be jumping on almost everyone who is posting in your thread because they don't agree 100% with what you are saying.

Probably have members in MS who lost everything....and have no means to post

You guys just don't get it. I'm done for tonight. Could a mod please lock this thread. It's pointless to try to get thru to some of you.

Tim, you don't get it. You are simply reacting to a recent hit. The same reactions were given from the Floridians hit 4 times last year. Don't put your pity party in here sir. We ALL feel sorry for you. We ALL have given. However, you are not unique. These storms DO HIT LAND. THEY DO EFFECT LIVES. They DO NOT fizzle out every time. I could go on, but to keep my account alive during a week when I might be personally be effected by a storm, I'll refrain for now. I will promise you this, should Rita come through, take my house and belongings, I won't come on here and start randomly taking it out on the board. I am not ignorant, I know what to expect living here.

loon

jimvb · #16 Postby **jimvb** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:44 am

There is a difference between affecting 100 lives and affecting 300 million lives. A strike by Rita in Louisiana, in the oil producing and refining part of the gulf, is a strike on the entire United States, maybe the entire world. This is because $4.50/gal gasoline and gasoline lines will appear all over the place if such a strike occurs.

Lori · #17 Postby **Lori** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:56 am

Tim,

I'm sorry your hurting so much right now. I'm still hurting from Ivan. I lost my best friend weeks after Ivan. The news,the message boards, and the world quickly move on to the next thing. I don't like to hear people saying stuff like "pity party","other people have it worse and your don't see them complaining ","tiny violin playing" etc. Again my condolences on the passing of your Uncle and my prayers for peace,comfort, and strength.

Lori

timNms · #18 Postby **timNms** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:16 am

loon wrote:
timNms wrote:
CajunMama wrote:Tim, I can understand your frustration but right now you are still feeling vulnerable. We had TV and did see what was happening in MS and AL also. There was also a wider area to cover in MS...help couldn't be everywhere at once. From what I have seen and read the hardest hit areas got aid first. Remote areas will always be last...that's just the nature of relief efforts unfortunately. Parts of NO didn't even get help for several days. There were people still on their roofs after a week! How long did it take for St. Bernard parish to get help? We have members in MS who have lost EVERYTHING and they are not complaining like this. They are picking up their lives and starting all over.

Our members are always going to post their predictions on where they think a landfall will be. They are not going to think of each individual member and wonder if it's going to offend them. It just isn't going to happen because with all the members we have from the gulf coast, a member is sure to be included in the landfall prediction area.

I don't think it's fair for you to be jumping on almost everyone who is posting in your thread because they don't agree 100% with what you are saying.

Probably have members in MS who lost everything....and have no means to post

You guys just don't get it. I'm done for tonight. Could a mod please lock this thread. It's pointless to try to get thru to some of you.

Tim, you don't get it. You are simply reacting to a recent hit. The same reactions were given from the Floridians hit 4 times last year. Don't put your pity party in here sir. We ALL feel sorry for you. We ALL have given. However, you are not unique. These storms DO HIT LAND. THEY DO EFFECT LIVES. They DO NOT fizzle out every time. I could go on, but to keep my account alive during a week when I might be personally be effected by a storm, I'll refrain for now. I will promise you this, should Rita come through, take my house and belongings, I won't come on here and start randomly taking it out on the board. I am not ignorant, I know what to expect living here.

loon

Good luck with the storm. I wish you the best and hope and pray for your sake that she steers clear of your neighborhood.

timNms · #19 Postby **timNms** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:27 am

To clarify here, this is not a pity party post. I made this post because it upset me to see some posters (whether they had good intentions or not) to say that this storm should make landfall where Katrina hit...or in a low populated area of Texas. I understand the reasoning in their thoughts, but what I tried to get across is the fact that no matter where she hits, someone's lives will be affected.

I believe I have made this same statement long before Katrina hit. I think it was back during the time when Bret made landfall in rural Texas. Someone had posted that Bret made landfall at the best place a cane could strike and I said something to the effect that although there were few people living in the path of the storm, those who were living there were affected by it.

I don't think we should make statements about a "best place" for a storm to hit. Sure, go ahead and make predictions and back those up with reasonings. But don't say there is a best place for one to strike because in reality, there is not!

#20 Postby **sponger** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:50 pm

Of course there is a best place. 5 people affected instead of 1.5 million, I'll choose that one.

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