Hurricane Land Interaction is Mysterious!

[Chigger_Lopez]

Once again a hurricane has gone over land and decided to move away. Rita had bumped her head on the ridge, jogged south, tasted Cuba and said "NAAAAH" and has now started moving NW along Cuba's coast. We have seen hurricanes do this repeatedly such as Ivan and Ophelia and we have no true answer as to why. Even Katrina sucking up water in the Glades is so intriguing. "Smart" hurricanes display the existence of an intelligent designer of our universe. Whoops no politics or religion.

[mtm4319]

The center is 100 miles NE of Cuba.

[gatorcane]

Yes, I agree with you and like the idea for this post. I can think of two hurricanes last year that went right around Jamaica for NO meteorological reason: Ivan and Charley. It's like they know where the land obstacles are. In this case it's riding right up Cuba and south of mainland FL. What are the chances?

I feel that the geography of the land masses in the Western Atlantic has been shaped by monster storms in ancient history and various severe wind patterns such as hugh mid-atlantic ridges and Azores high far more intense than what we have now. Is it coincidence that no large land mass exists between Bermuda and the northern leeward islands where most hurricanes choose to go? How about the shape of the U.S an that most storms curve along the shape of it out to sea?

Interesting.

[Windy]

Once again a hurricane has gone over land and decided to move away. Rita had bumped her head on the ridge, jogged south, tasted Cuba and said "NAAAAH" and has now started moving NW along Cuba's coast. We have seen hurricanes do this repeatedly such as Ivan and Ophelia and we have no true answer as to why. Even Katrina sucking up water in the Glades is so intriguing. "Smart" hurricanes display the existence of an intelligent designer of our universe. Whoops no politics or religion.

So you're saying that hurricanes are controlled/micromanaged on a personal level by God? You're right, you're in the wrong forum.

[bahamaswx]

Yes, I agree with you and like the idea for this post. I can think of two hurricanes last year that went right around Jamaica for NO meteorological reason: Ivan and Charley. It's like they know where the land obstacles are. In this case it's riding right up Cuba and south of mainland FL. What are the chances?

I feel that the geography of the land masses in the Western Atlantic has been shaped by monster storms in ancient history and various severe wind patterns such as hugh mid-atlantic ridges and Azores high far more intense than what we have now. Is it coincidence that no large land mass exists between Bermuda and the northern leeward islands where most hurricanes choose to go? How about the shape of the U.S an that most storms curve along the shape of it out to sea?

Interesting.

And yet somehow Florida still exists...

[kevin]

Once again a hurricane has gone over land and decided to move away. Rita had bumped her head on the ridge, jogged south, tasted Cuba and said "NAAAAH" and has now started moving NW along Cuba's coast. We have seen hurricanes do this repeatedly such as Ivan and Ophelia and we have no true answer as to why. Even Katrina sucking up water in the Glades is so intriguing. "Smart" hurricanes display the existence of an intelligent designer of our universe. Whoops no politics or religion.

Everything was once God. The rain, the fire, the ground, the birth of baby animals, bubbling springs, famine, disease, a whole list of things. They are all complex, and mysterious, but we don't think so today because of science.

Its not that theos thing, its a physical thing, if it is a thing at all.

[THead]

There was a long thread on this subject, or similar, last week. Maybe someone can dig it up and save some time?

[arcticfire]

Well golly gee , if god is personally aiming these cains at the coasts sure glad I live in alaska where he loves us and we don't get any severe weather. You godless heathins down south must have really ticked him off for him to be using ya'll as bowling pins.

Seriously thow , if there is a repetative patter to something happening weather wise it's because there is a physics reason for it. Example , my city anchorage has moutains on one side and ocean on the other. When we get precipitation there is ALWAYS more on the hillside. Now if I was religious nut I could just say , welp god hates them hillside people. But of course they get more precipitation because of a fundamental weather dynamic nothing more nothing less.

[Chigger_Lopez]

Apparently this is why things such as evolution and such are never discussed on a board like this. I have absolutely nothing to say that would not refer to all things being created by something intelligent rather than happening due to physics and a big bang alone. I am obviously tired to have opened such a thread. Sorry pagans.

[kevin]

I pray to the Unconquerable Sun for the forgiveness of your transgression, blessed be those lit from the light of Mithras, and filled with the glory of Ahura Mazda!

boogity boogity booogity

I'm a scientist not a pagan.

[Chigger_Lopez]

I'm just messing with y'all Kevin. I know there are scientific explanations to most things, the pagan comment was a joke. But your post is funny, I hope. By the way, what is the scientific explantion for how Ivan jogged around Jamaica last year? Good luck.

[wxmann_91]

Differences in the heating of land and ocean.

DAY:
Land heats faster=higher pressure (if I'm not mistaken)
Ocean heats slower=lower pressure

Hurricanes near land (low pressure) are drawn toward the area of high pressure, thus it seems like they are drawn toward land. Good example is Charley last year which made that right hook.

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NIGHT:
Land cools faster=lower pressure
Ocean cools slower (warmer)=higher pressure

Hurricanes near land (low pressure) are drawn toward the area of high pressure, thus it seems like they are trying to avoid land. Good examples are Katrina right before landfall and Ivan when he was repelling against Jamaica.

Interesting enough after dawn I noticed Katrina made a slight jog west again, same concept as above, hurricanes are attracted to the warm land (high pressure) by day, warm water by night.

[superfly]

There is no God therefore God cannot be controlling hurricanes since there is no God.

[Windy]

I'm just messing with y'all Kevin. I know there are scientific explanations to most things, the pagan comment was a joke. But your post is funny, I hope. By the way, what is the scientific explantion for how Ivan jogged around Jamaica last year? Good luck.

God of the Gaps is pretty fruitless argument (Google that term if you've never heard of it.) And that's coming out of the mouth of someone who does believe in God. And now I think we've all pretty much assured that this thread will be locked.

[SamSagnella]

Ivan would have made that westerly jog even if there was no such island as Jamaica.

The previous west-northwestward motion of 14-15 kt gradually decreased while Ivan moved across the central Caribbean Sea toward Jamaica. Although a large subtropical ridge to the north remained intact, steering currents weakened and Ivan's forward speed decreased to less than 10 kt on 11 September while the hurricane made a turn to the west, keeping the center at least 20 n mi offshore the southern coast of the island.

Tropical Cyclone Report: Hurricane Ivan

[Javlin]

I think there is a reason in simple physics and friction.You have to think of it on a molecular level and the adhesive properties of water.Say you spill a little water on the counter and you run your finger through it it makes new puddles that band together or how the water clings together across the top of a glass in a shallow curve.It is molecular bonding.If you take it a step further and start throwing in acceleration of mass cause that is what the water is with it's bonding issues becomes quite a mass.Now you have this mass that is building,bonding and accelerating.It comes up to an area of mass,land,it feels some friction it is a mass against the land.The storm possibily at this point I think might handle itself in the form of an elastic collision maybe.It bounces.I think it really shows itself on slowermoving systems with weak steering currents.This is really a thought I have had for years now really not simple but the initial thought is.Proving it is beyond me I have to leave that to a real physicist.

[THead]

I'm just messing with y'all Kevin. I know there are scientific explanations to most things, the pagan comment was a joke. But your post is funny, I hope. By the way, what is the scientific explantion for how Ivan jogged around Jamaica last year? Good luck.

God of the Gaps is pretty fruitless argument (Google that term if you've never heard of it.) And that's coming out of the mouth of someone who does believe in God. And now I think we've all pretty much assured that this thread will be locked.

God For President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now it will be locked.

[clueless newbie]

No, no, NO!

It should read: "God bless us, with this president!"

That would infuriate everybody.

(Aarght, silly thread, should really be locked.)

[kevin]

No, no, NO!

It should read: "God bless us, with this president!"

That would infuriate everybody.

(Aarght, silly thread, should really be locked.)

You're just a clueless newbie.

[mahicks]

Well golly gee , if god is personally aiming these cains at the coasts sure glad I live in alaska where he loves us and we don't get any severe weather. You godless heathins down south must have really ticked him off for him to be using ya'll as bowling pins.

Seriously thow , if there is a repetative patter to something happening weather wise it's because there is a physics reason for it. Example , my city anchorage has moutains on one side and ocean on the other. When we get precipitation there is ALWAYS more on the hillside. Now if I was religious nut I could just say , welp god hates them hillside people. But of course they get more precipitation because of a fundamental weather dynamic nothing more nothing less.

Awesome post...Someone from Alaska stating they don't get any severe weather.

I'm in Florida and I call months of daylight and then months of darkness, and freezing temps....blizards, etc....SEVERE weather!

Your one bad mutha (*&$##(* !