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New GFDL

#1 Postby hicksta » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:34 am

Is the new GFDL the only one showing Freeport? kinda makes you worry when the GFDL goes back and Joe B is still saying Galveston according to his maps.
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Re: New GFDL

#2 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:40 am

hicksta wrote:Is the new GFDL the only one showing Freeport? kinda makes you worry when the GFDL goes back and Joe B is still saying Galveston according to his maps.


What did the previous GFDL run say?
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#3 Postby hicksta » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:41 am

Matagorda.
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Re: New GFDL

#4 Postby skysummit » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:42 am

hicksta wrote:Is the new GFDL the only one showing Freeport? kinda makes you worry when the GFDL goes back and Joe B is still saying Galveston according to his maps.


Not making me worry! :D Good luck.
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#5 Postby hicksta » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:43 am

Yea, but i like on clear lake which is connected to Galveston Bay[/u]
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#6 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:46 am

hicksta wrote:Yea, but i like on clear lake which is connected to Galveston Bay[/u]


Interesting Run... How many miles seperate Matagorda Bay and Freeport? Is that a big shift East?
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#7 Postby shawn67 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:51 am

HouTXmetro wrote:
hicksta wrote:Yea, but i like on clear lake which is connected to Galveston Bay[/u]


Interesting Run... How many miles seperate Matagorda Bay and Freeport? Is that a big shift East?


About 41.5 miles

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#8 Postby jasons2k » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:54 am

GFDL nailed Katrina.
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#9 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:55 am

This is not good, considering the fact the GFS is allegedly back at Galveston.
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#10 Postby jasons2k » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:56 am

HouTXmetro wrote:This is not good, considering the fact the GFS is allegedly back at Galveston.


Well GFS and GFDL are in the same camp...but you are right this is not good news for Houston. I expect next NHC advisory will shift right.
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#11 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:01 pm

So is there a consensus that Rita strike No further South than Matagorda Bay and No Further East then Beaumont?
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#12 Postby dwg71 » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:03 pm

jschlitz wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:This is not good, considering the fact the GFS is allegedly back at Galveston.


Well GFS and GFDL are in the same camp...but you are right this is not good news for Houston. I expect next NHC advisory will shift right.


The GFS is notorious for eroding ridges too quickly. It all comes down to the High Pressure ridge, if it moves out then it will move more north, if it does not its further south. To me to my untrained eye, it appears that its actually still building west.

time will tell.
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#13 Postby jax » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:04 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:So is there a consensus that Rita strike No further South than Matagorda Bay and No Further East then Beaumont.


is that a question or a statement?

if it's a question... the answer is no.
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#14 Postby HouTXmetro » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:07 pm

Oh ok, just wondering since the black line has consistantly showed landfall from Galveston to Matagorda TX.
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#15 Postby jax » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:08 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:Oh ok, just wondering since the black line has consistantly showed landfall from Galveston to Matagorda TX.


it's just too soon to tell... that's all i'm saying.
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#16 Postby jax » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:13 pm

keep in mind that the Friday afternoon before Katrina hit,
less the 65 hours before impact... the NHC had her heading
to the Big Bend area of Florida. That's about 180 miles off
target. That is a HUGE swing inside of 72 hours...
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#17 Postby soonertwister » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:18 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:Oh ok, just wondering since the black line has consistantly showed landfall from Galveston to Matagorda TX.


Forget the black line, it's merely an estimate of the most probable center track of the storm, based upon NHC best guidance, and it WILL CHANGE between today and tomorrow, and probably the day after that.

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#18 Postby Nimbus » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:36 pm

So what are the models keying on that results in this east shift?
The ridge is still quite strong and has retrograded northwest some but it does not look as though it will break down soon.
Seems too early for the rapid intensification trend to be in the model runs.
Would the larger high pressure dome over Rita once she gets to be a major cane weaken the westward steering and slow the track?
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#19 Postby Mac » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:40 pm

hicksta wrote:Yea, but i like on clear lake which is connected to Galveston Bay[/u]


I used to live in Seabrook, and I lived between Nasa Rd 1 and Clear Lake when Alicia hit. If this thing gets anywhere near Galveston you'd better get the hell out of Dodge. The tidal surge will push water into Galveston Bay, and then into Clear Lake. The further inland the water goes the more it is funneled. What you end up with is a tidal surge piling up on top of itself--much higher than what most of the area will get. When Alicia hit, parts of Nasa Rd 1 were covered. Many of the deaths from Alicia were located in the Seabrook area. And Alicia was barely a Cat 3 storm. I'm warning you, my friend, get the hell out of there if this thing gets anywhere near Galveston.
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#20 Postby LarryWx » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:42 pm

I was just told by a met. that the 12Z GFDL is further SW than its prior run, i.e., further away from Galveston.
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